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Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
05-07-2026, 03:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-07-2026, 03:36 AM by jonnymacbrown.)
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Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
This is an area the Poles can both hold for quite some time and dish out serious punishment. Poland has innumerable pillboxes and bunkers. Do not give them up. Make the Hun take every one of them.  Krakow is Army command, GO (Corps) Slask commands the 23rd PD & 55th PD infantry divisions; so the command structure is strong. Advance Krakow Army command unit and get its command range into range with GO Slask. The 23rd is very powerful with 9,500 men and 75 guns and the 55th with 8,600 men and 36 guns. The 750 man battalions positioned in bunkers can inflict pain without suffering losses to German MG fire. Eventually you are going to lose these divisions; no way can they hold out for a retreat to the Vistula. This is a suicide mission. Use ‘em or lose ‘em. Basically Poland is superior in this area. HOLD THE BUNKERS & PILLBOXES. Do not fall back until driven out of the bunkers. Dig in wherever and whenever possible in plentiful industrial and city hexes. Abundant Polish AA units can take a toll of low-defense Luftwaffe is used properly. Try to position the copious Polish 40mm AA batteries hidden. They have low defense and are easily destroyed by enemy artillery. Do not let them come under enemy infantry fire. These units do not accrue any benefit from bunkers and pillboxes. There are a few 75mm AA but not in this area. These do benefit from bunkers.
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05-07-2026, 04:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-07-2026, 07:23 PM by mynorth.)
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RE: Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
Škoda 30.5 cm Mörser M.11
Schwere Artillerie-Abteilungen 641 in the game. Guaranteed disruption of any unit positioned in pillboxes/bunkers around Chorzow/Katowice area.
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05-08-2026, 09:28 AM,
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RE: Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
(05-07-2026, 04:10 PM)mynorth Wrote: Škoda 30.5 cm Mörser M.11
Schwere Artillerie-Abteilungen 641 in the game. Guaranteed disruption of any unit positioned in pillboxes/bunkers around Chorzow/Katowice area.

What is your experience? How is disruption guaranteed?
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05-09-2026, 05:34 AM,
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RE: Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
Not so sure I would fight so doggedly for this area if I were Poles.  In our on going P39 CG (we're on Day 7 of the invasion) GruppeSud encircled and annihilated almost the entirety of the Krakow Army (some 70,000 troops) while it fought doggedly for the Katowice area.  A breakthrough along the Chorzow-Katowice axis coupled with XVIIIth Korps seizing all the crossings along the Sola and Przemsza Rivers isolated the lot and by the end of Day 4 they were rounded up.  

In a stand alone contest in the Slask Scenario I was well on the way to repeating the feat but when my opponent conceded the position at the end of Day 3 seeing the hopelessness of the situation.  

One of my mantras is that the greatest defensive territory in the world is worthless if I can't compel my enemy to attack me there.
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RE: Defense of Beuthen, Chorzow & Katowice. P-39
(05-09-2026, 05:34 AM)Steel God Wrote: Not so sure I would fight so doggedly for this area if I were Poles.  In our on going P39 CG (we're on Day 7 of the invasion) GruppeSud encircled and annihilated almost the entirety of the Krakow Army (some 70,000 troops) while it fought doggedly for the Katowice area.  A breakthrough along the Chorzow-Katowice axis coupled with XVIIIth Korps seizing all the crossings along the Sola and Przemsza Rivers isolated the lot and by the end of Day 4 they were rounded up.  

In a stand alone contest in the Slask Scenario I was well on the way to repeating the feat but when my opponent conceded the position at the end of Day 3 seeing the hopelessness of the situation.  

One of my mantras is that the greatest defensive territory in the world is worthless if I can't compel my enemy to attack me there.
With all due respect to my tempered metallic deity; I don’t understand what you are talking about here. Are you saying the Germans shouldn’t attack into the Katowice complex? What? They are positioned to attack directly into it. They have a huge salient that runs deep into the heart of it. They have infiltrators neatly positioned in -50% industrial hexes right smack-dab in the Polish centre. It is true that Poland will eventually be overrun here but it takes a full scale attack taking tremendous losses if the Poles play it right. I suggest your opponent misread the situation by giving up after 30 turns especially if, as you say, you didn’t attack there. It’s all well and good to (blithely) state “the greatest defensive territory in the world is worthless if I can't compel my enemy to attack me there? If you didn’t attack Katowice what did you do? Your humble supplicant and servant jonny
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