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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - Ostland [SPR] - 09-22-2009 New units for HPS. ![[Image: NewUnits.jpg]](http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/ostland/NewUnits.jpg) 1. Infantry for Mot Rifle Division (MT-LB) . 25 % Soviet Army be at MT-LB in USSR. 2. Infantry at Trucks. Divisions of the second and third wave. 3.Security unit at BTR. (For security Reg. and Bat in GSFG) RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - Aaron - 09-22-2009 Ostland [SPR Wrote:] C is average and i believe that where they all should be. There are a selected few unts that did get a B rating but thats it. For the most part Nato is also a C accept for the more professional armys like the US and British and West German active units but ive actually been considering for awhile that the Germans should be a C also. Theres an arguement for both ways but right now the WGermans have B,C or D depending on reserve status. Aaron RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - Aaron - 09-22-2009 Ostland [SPR Wrote:] Off the top of my head a security battalion only had like 6 Btrs and a couple Tanks usually, dont think they should be givin the benifits of under armor when if u look at equipment they have 70 trucks and 6 Btrs. As for MT-LBs you are correct but that wasnt in the major areas to reinforce GSFG, if u look up at the Lenigrad district ull see all PT76s in tank regiments and mostlly MTLBs in the Mot regs. I have trouble finding any even in CAT C-D divisions in the Byelorussian Military District. Aaron Looked it up and shows 6 MBTs and 13 BTRs per Battalion, Thats about 15-20% mounted, all the rest in trucks RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009 tazaaron Wrote:but right now the WGermans have B,C or D depending on reserve status. I think that is eminently correct. West germany maintained 15 month conscription with the option of retaining a person up to 3 months longer if he was occupying a key position in a unit and no replacement was immediately at hand. Belgium, France and Holland was 12 months afaik. Denmark was between 8-12 months depending on arm of service. Norway was also 12 months. Austria maintained 6 months of (inadequate) concription. It was (and is) generally accepted that in order to train a battalion sized unit adequately (that is to the equivalent of a "C" in the game) you need at least one year of intensive training (that means doing military training and exercise, not mowing fields, plucking potatoes or standing around on the parade square). Anything above 12 months spent effectively doing military stuff is gravy and means the unit might get even better ("B" quality in other words) So it basically looks alright. Freshly trained conscripted units are B or C or D depending on service lenght and quality of service (if the unit spends most of its conscription time doing non-military stuff due to a lack of funding it might even be a "D" as the case seems to be with some of the Czech, Polish, even though their conscripts have had a long service period of over 12 months on paper). As units then begin to "cycle" through the reserve categories they lose quality. How fast they lose it is of course dependent on how often and how long the unit and/or its individual personnel is put through refresher training. RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - greg - 09-23-2009 "Lieber rot als tot" Here the illustrtion of anti-militarism and the thought of the unfortunate owners of our fabulous field of battle. So I do not think the level of combativeness should be in the height of their skills. RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - Ostland [SPR] - 09-23-2009 Not all security regiments were by trucks. 43 Security Regiments (GSFG) in 1989 year . It's have 19 tanks T-64 and 39 BTR. Only the rest trucks. ![[Image: 43.jpg]](http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/ostland/43.jpg)
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009 greg Wrote:"Lieber rot als tot" Here the illustrtion of anti-militarism and the thought of the unfortunate owners of our fabulous field of battle. Billevesée RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - Ostland [SPR] - 09-23-2009 We speak about morale or about skills ? As the morals depend on training. RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - greg - 09-23-2009 JDR Dragoon Wrote:greg Wrote:"Lieber rot als tot" Here the illustrtion of anti-militarism and the thought of the unfortunate owners of our fabulous field of battle. not really, but if you knew the Germans of that period (80's) and even today you would know that they make an amalgam between our nazi past and the army. Trauma is very real. RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009 greg Wrote:not really, but if you knew the Germans of that period (80's) and even today you would know that they make an amalgam between our nazi past and the army. Trauma is very real. Have you ever participated in any exercise with Bundeswehr units. If so, when? |
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