F 40 Gold: Expiring Objectives

[LordDeadwood]

Did it mention expiring objectives?  I don't think all scenarios have them.

Yes they are integral to the game. The 259 turn scenarios have them as they are listed with S following the names on the location chart. But there is no mention of WHEN they expire as in F 14. Also, as mentioned, the 259 turn campaign daily command report doesn't list any expiring objectives BUT the Dunkirk evacuation scenarios DO. The F 14 expiring objectives are all given a date by which they expire as are the Dunkirk objectives. Making a move in this game takes up a good part of a day, at least. I want to know if we are wasting our time because without expiring objectives the 259 turn scenarios don't function properly. jonny

I don't have access to the game right now, but I did work a lot with the file for this scenario not too long ago. I started a game of this last year; unfortunately my opponent had to drop out. Anyway, I'm wondering if the locations with the "S" following their names are the "surrender" locations? The scenario file has a code that identifies those locations in the Netherlands and Belgium. NONE of the objectives have a turn expiration in the scenario file (looked at it just now). If all of the locations with the "S" following them are in the Netherlands and Belgium, then they are almost certainly the surrender objectives. The expiration issue may be an oversight, but as it stands now the scenario does not have any expiration on the objectives. I should clarify I'm only looking at the "B4" scenario file.

Yes, they are all in Belgium and Netherlands. What are the implications here? When does Belgian surrender indicate an "automatic Axis minor victory" as stated in the scenario notes? With no expiration this can happen on turn 250. The surrender hexes seem to be scattered about like pixie dust too. Neither Amsterdam, den Haag, nor Rotterdam count towards Dutch surrender. All these things need to be known to both players. Obviously very great research went into these scenarios. But without even the most rudimentary play-testing it's all for naught. jonny

The next key question is: Is it possible to add expiration dates to the objective hexes mid-game? Or at all?

You could add expiration dates to the objective hexes by editing the scenario file. To do it mid-game, you would have to edit the .bte file, but only if it is not encrypted.