Newbie Questions

[Ricky B]

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What is at issue is how many Morale Checks are performed. My point is that there is never more than one Morale Check performed per attack. I have never seen an attack cause a non-Disrupted unit to go straight to being Broken. So I do not see how "the effect would be the same". Clearly, attacking as a group or attacking separately can yield very different results in terms of Morale Checks. Are you saying you do not agree with this?

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So my last comments were clearly about losses and not morale checks. However, I also believe that each one goes through the morale check process separately. However, they also are calculated based on the initial pre-fire status, as if all happen at the same time, from what I understand (having worked with the early designers and all). I don't even know how to test it with absolute certainty. However, remember to break a unit has to be at max fatigue. So it could be possible to have a test where a unit is at say 299 fatigue but not disrupted and fired at by separate strong units in a combined fire, each of which cause heavy losses (so maybe modified combat values on both sides), and see if it ever breaks.

But if the idea is to try and determine the best way to maximize things, just remember (and you can find lots of discussion here already on it) that there are trade off between firing all units in a stack together versus one at a time (which definitely could result in a disruption then broken status change in one series of shots). Ultimately better play would overwhelm any gain from perfect understanding of the math involved, and if it is purely curiosity, again I don't believe there is a way to prove it without the code. I know even the basic CV calc is much more complex than the manual states, and there are so many factors that impact it that we haven't been able to get a grip on them all in one shot.

Rick