Atheory's Project: Operation Fischreiher (Stalingrad42)

[Plain Ian]

Idk if you need this (I can't find a spoiler option, so as links):
62 A on 17 July 
Tank units that related to Tank Department (ABTU) of Stalingrad Front on 21 July - page 1 page 2

Nice original documents. I can see what you are saying but we would need to go back to the scenario designer Atheory to see what he says. Zovs66 has done a great job tidying up the graphics but its Atheory who did the original work. 

Looking at the Fischreiher scenario its pretty clear that Atheory started with the #0723 Don Bend scenario and extended the associated sub map and OOB. I don't think he made many changes to unit compositions apart from unit strengths. I've looked at his Drive_For_Stalingrad.oob and compared it with Stalingrad '42 Early_Alt_McNamara.oob.

So if the tank types are wrong in Atheory's mod then maybe this is where it comes from?

Here is your page 1. 



Heres a sample of some of these units from Stalingrad '42.



So yes tank types do not match up. 

Also since I spent a few days looking at the Fischreiher oob I spotted a few issues. The scenario has two 22nd Motorised Infantry Brigades on the map? One of them must be bogus?

I came across a source which agrees that the 652nd Separate tank battalion shown in page 1 above was present at Serfamovich so yes it should be added.

Plus there appears to be 3 duplicate Tank Brigades in the Fischreiher oob? (see below) Since Atheory attempted to extend the Don Bend scenario from 70 turns (July 23 - 29th) to 400 turns (July 23rd - 2nd Sep) I think that this has caused problems in tracking the Soviet OOB during this period. 

Armoured units from Drive_For_Stalingrad.oob


Anyway just as an interesting comparison to tank units at this time June 42, here are tank units from two 'similar' games. I thought it would be interesting to show them.

Moscow '42 has a June start so I would assume that unit compositions would have been similar to what was happening down south? Interestingly the Separate tank Bn which is also in the 500 designation series is shown as 30 x T34's? 



Here are some tank units from Kharkov '42 which is a bit earlier time wise as its from May 42. Interestingly the tank units are shown as 'mixed' because the represent T-34/T-60/T-70 units? 



Lastly my favourite game designer. His take on the May 42 battle. Kharkov '42 was among the earlier PzC series so I guess this is Indragnirs updating using more up to date sources. 



So if we want to show the Soviet tank units properly in July 42 do we show them as 'mixed' units and keep keep counter count low or do we show them as exact model types 'a la' Indragnir style and add all those extra counters which a lot of gamers hate?