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Engineers
11-02-2011, 07:54 AM,
#31
RE: Engineers
(11-02-2011, 06:58 AM)Herr Straßen Läufer Wrote: Working backwards any mathematician could figure the scale was 250 meters and six minutes was the approx time per turn.
What all do not see (or do not want to see) is the game is set up that way from its movement to the fire tables. It just is, what it is?

You may not like it but the game is a fine representation of the scale it was designed for. But, everything (unless there is something new I do not know about) moves and shoots within the games scale.

I'll vote for scale.

And this is the essence of the entire "argument" over scale.

Put aside all the emotions, egos, and personalities (me included) who "regularly" weigh in on this topic and who are very passionate and unashamed to be passionate about it... in the end it always comes back to scale.

Why?

Because the CS game engine is built upon a specific scale (distance / time) and unit's movement rates and fire tables adhere to that scale.

The "friction" is when units get added to the CS organizational tables that fall outside these data perimeters. The "sparks also fly" when individuals defend these units inclusions by either making obtuse "non-scale" statements or avoiding answering / addressing CS scale.

Frankly, it would be refreshing for the defenders of the inclusion of non-scale units to declare once and for all that the CS game scale is NOT 6 minutes per turn... and that hexes are NOT 250 meters... that both the User Manual and Data Perimeter information is wrong... that unit movement rates and fire tables are based on arbitrary numbers... and than explain to CS players what is the true game scale?

It would be a short conversation? :chin:

Like Ed, I enjoy and am passionate about CS... and also not ashamed to defend it. I don't want to see this game engine become so compromised by the introduction of non-scale units and other flotsam... that it becomes unrecognizable as a great, enjoyable, and fun tactical WWII game.
Regards, Mike / "A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - George S. Patton /
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Engineers - by Dragoon - 10-31-2011, 09:22 PM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-01-2011, 03:05 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-01-2011, 03:41 AM
RE: Engineers - by Chuck10mtn - 11-01-2011, 04:11 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-01-2011, 04:29 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-01-2011, 04:36 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-01-2011, 04:48 AM
RE: Engineers - by Chuck10mtn - 11-01-2011, 07:42 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-01-2011, 07:58 PM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-01-2011, 08:37 PM
RE: Engineers - by Huib Versloot - 11-01-2011, 10:37 PM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-01-2011, 11:52 PM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-01-2011, 04:57 AM
RE: Engineers - by Crossroads - 11-01-2011, 05:27 AM
RE: Engineers - by Mike Abberton - 11-01-2011, 06:11 AM
RE: Engineers - by Von Earlmann - 11-01-2011, 08:22 AM
RE: Engineers - by Mike Abberton - 11-01-2011, 11:20 PM
RE: Engineers - by Von Earlmann - 11-02-2011, 01:53 AM
RE: Engineers - by Wolfman - 11-02-2011, 12:41 AM
RE: Engineers - by Crossroads - 11-02-2011, 02:03 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 02:40 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-02-2011, 02:44 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-02-2011, 02:45 AM
RE: Engineers - by Crossroads - 11-02-2011, 04:01 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-02-2011, 04:41 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-02-2011, 02:30 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-02-2011, 03:13 AM
RE: Engineers - by Ashcloud - 11-02-2011, 08:48 PM
RE: Engineers - by Chuck10mtn - 11-02-2011, 03:22 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-02-2011, 06:58 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-02-2011, 07:12 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 07:54 AM
RE: Engineers - by Chuck10mtn - 11-02-2011, 08:08 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 09:45 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-02-2011, 10:50 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 08:49 PM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-02-2011, 07:58 PM
RE: Engineers - by Chuck10mtn - 11-03-2011, 06:54 AM
RE: Engineers - by Von Earlmann - 11-02-2011, 09:00 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-02-2011, 09:17 AM
RE: Engineers - by Von Earlmann - 11-02-2011, 09:46 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-02-2011, 11:06 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 09:28 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-02-2011, 11:55 AM
RE: Engineers - by Crossroads - 11-02-2011, 06:11 PM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-02-2011, 08:24 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-02-2011, 09:43 PM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-02-2011, 10:37 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-03-2011, 02:36 AM
RE: Engineers - by Scud - 11-03-2011, 03:00 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-03-2011, 03:19 AM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-03-2011, 03:27 AM
RE: Engineers - by K K Rossokolski - 11-08-2011, 06:33 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-03-2011, 03:26 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-03-2011, 07:01 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-03-2011, 03:33 AM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-03-2011, 04:38 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-03-2011, 05:05 AM
RE: Engineers - by Scud - 11-03-2011, 06:19 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-03-2011, 11:31 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-03-2011, 04:10 PM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-04-2011, 09:53 PM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-04-2011, 11:34 PM
RE: Engineers - by Scud - 11-05-2011, 05:49 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-05-2011, 12:57 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-05-2011, 02:42 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-05-2011, 04:31 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-05-2011, 06:44 AM
RE: Engineers - by Von Earlmann - 11-05-2011, 08:21 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-05-2011, 08:51 AM
RE: Engineers - by Crossroads - 11-06-2011, 05:14 PM
RE: Engineers - by Jason Petho - 11-07-2011, 04:38 AM
RE: Engineers - by Dragoon - 11-07-2011, 03:03 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-07-2011, 06:11 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-07-2011, 08:51 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-07-2011, 10:51 PM
RE: Engineers - by Ashcloud - 11-07-2011, 11:48 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-08-2011, 07:08 AM
RE: Engineers - by Herr Straße Laufer - 11-08-2011, 09:53 AM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-08-2011, 04:11 PM
RE: Engineers - by Kool Kat - 11-08-2011, 09:44 PM
RE: Engineers - by Glint - 11-10-2011, 02:53 AM

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