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Any consensus on F 14?
04-19-2011, 10:50 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-19-2011, 10:56 AM by Volcano Man.)
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RE: Any consensus on F 14?
(04-19-2011, 04:11 AM)jonnymacbrown Wrote: That's another problem we talked about here. Volcano Man made some changes to slow the German thrust through Tournai down a bit (blown bridges and the like) but there is nothing there except the next to useless 88th Territorials and the British 4th Division won't arrive there until the 25th. A movement in force in that direction might be unstoppable especially with the BEF fixed for 2 days.

Right. Well, FWIW, I still don't see the whole BEF bypass as a great tactic. As you said, I did make some changes just to remove the yellow brick road around the flank, but I still wanted it to be an option, just one that comes with some difficulty now (if I didn't want it to happen at all, I would either make the whole area impassable or have every bridge over there blown at the start). I think that the BEF, if left untouched, could break out of any trap the Germans might create for them by forced marching day and night around their flank. Also, again, by not bloodying the BEF, you essentially make them a wild card where they can be committed in full force anywhere at full strength and 0 fatigue. The BEF then conceivably be used to be a game changer somewhere, by counter attacking. So, I think bypassing/avoiding the BEF only, in the end at least, helps the Allies.

But yes, the Germans should naturally try to flank around them in the west, and it should be possible to achieve this in the game if the Allies do not react well to the advance. I just believe the combination of flanking and putting pressure on them directly is the best choice. If someone can show me that the Germans can transplant the entire 1.Armee behind the BEF before they get released then I will naturally make a few more tweaks to make it harder for the 1.Armee to do it because, obviously, dancing around them would become a "golden bullet" tactic that it shouldn't be (it should come with pros and cons). AFAICT, this is all just speculation at this point however as I did do some extensive tests here and I don't think the Germans can accomplish it with anything other than risking their entire cavalry corps in the process.

We just have to get the most competent FWWC attack(s) together with the most competent FWWC defender(s) and see how the early campaign plays out one day. ;)
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Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 03-23-2011, 05:43 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 03-24-2011, 05:18 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Jison - 03-24-2011, 06:20 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-24-2011, 06:58 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Bushido - 03-24-2011, 07:05 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 03-24-2011, 01:37 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Mr Grumpy - 03-24-2011, 07:19 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-24-2011, 02:06 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 03-24-2011, 02:35 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 03-25-2011, 02:33 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-25-2011, 03:31 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Nitram Draw - 03-25-2011, 11:03 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-26-2011, 09:24 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Jison - 03-30-2011, 09:10 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 04-01-2011, 04:36 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by enigma6584 - 03-31-2011, 09:47 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 04-14-2011, 04:47 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Mr Grumpy - 04-14-2011, 06:04 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Shoopzee - 03-30-2011, 11:52 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-30-2011, 03:17 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by cazart! - 03-31-2011, 01:51 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 03-31-2011, 02:03 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 04-01-2011, 06:49 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 04-04-2011, 04:10 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Philippe - 04-01-2011, 07:13 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Archijerej - 04-04-2011, 03:51 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2011, 12:08 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 04-04-2011, 12:15 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 04-14-2011, 07:49 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Nitram Draw - 04-15-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by jonnymacbrown - 04-19-2011, 04:11 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Nitram Draw - 04-19-2011, 08:52 AM
RE: Any consensus on F 14? - by Volcano Man - 04-19-2011, 10:50 AM

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