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[von Nev]

I agree what you are saying Marquo namely that the Russians won. That is not being disputed.

What we are trying to figure out is how to get somewhat historical results where the Russians crushed the Germans in late Jan not late November.

I would disagree with you that the Germans were a rambling, uncohesive mass. The Russians took horrific casualties trying to attack the pocket. In fact, they first thought they only surrounded some 80K Germans. They had no idea that they surrounded over 230,000. When they first attacked the pocket in Nov and Dec they were soundly defeated. That is why they waited for an entire month and a half preparing to attack the pocket with overwhelming force.