Constructive discussion

[Herr Straße Laufer]

Hawk, I maybe reading your comments in the wrong context perhaps.
You bring Ed into the debate whereas I stated I'm not taking sides. I even admit that Gordon made a controversial remark that didn't help matters for him.

Actually Peter you brought Ed into the debate here by referring to Gordon's "controversial remark" (LOL! You could write speeches for politicians.)

Here is what debate means:
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
Discussion
Pronunciation: \di-ˈskə-shən\
Function: noun Date: 14th century
1 : consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate
2 : a formal treatment of a topic in speech or writing
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That is it? It is quite simply discussion defined?
On the other thread I only said that there are reasons not to change the LOS. I then agreed with two or three others who basically said the same thing.
Then Gordon chose to personally attack me and not what I wrote.

Here is what personal attack means:
From the Nizkor Project:

Ad Hominem Abusive.
Description of Personal Attack
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.
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I can see that you have played many recent games with Gordon and I appreciate you sticking up for your friend. But, to 'water down' what he did and draw out the continued attacks is really where the problem is?

I adhere to the two definitions above. I've never told someone to shut up. Nor would I.
I think that those who are not stating their opinions have that right. But, if they are passionate and want to post that is another issue?
If others hesitate from stating their opinions then we all lose?

Last I saw the average age of the CS ladder was early to late forties. I may be wrong, it is not a factual statement because I did not research it, but I think it is fair to say that most are mid thirties or older.
If so, why are "mature men" afraid to post? LOL! It makes me laugh to even think of why. I sure know that enough of you have taken your shots at me, but, I still type into discussions by discussing?

Your thread theme was constructive discussion. I agree. It is about time we had it and less personal attacks.

Good gaming!



RR