The Storm in the East Tournament - Round 1

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Here is the only way to fix this, the moderator has to be sent the final battle save and password at the end of the game to see where each opponent stands and make any judgment he sees fit. if surrender was justified then a surrender can be awarded. the reason for this is i or anyone else cannot control when your opponent surrenders so in the end your only going to be screwing the winner.

Cease fires aren't the most even handed way either to calculate points either if someone quits - I agree with you on that one unless the person who has to agree to the cease fire keeps playing as long as they want, like I believe Floki suggested.

The only real way to actually fix this is not to allow any surrendering in this tourney at all - all games must be played through to conclusion. In a point based tourney based on losses and obj's taken, the surrender option disregards those parameters, and therefore shouldn't be allowed. In a points based tourney, given the way the games scores surrenders, if someone wants to surrender, then they are disqualified from the tourney and the game is replayed with another opponent that won't quit.

Not sure how the winner is getting screwed though, unless you think that the recipient of the surrender should get all the points just because the other guy gave up, and therefore the winner is somehow being cheated. Your opponent should never have been allowed to quit - in a surrender scenario the GAME gives the winner points that aren't necessarily earned, the loser gets none, when some might have been earned, and the winner doesn't lose any for casualties, whether it be 1 in your case, or more. And possession of objectives points all go to the winner regardless of who actually took them - just because you took all but one here isn't relevant.

Again - this isn't about your game and the decisiveness of your victory up to the point he quit. Well done, sir!! However, if you played through to a conclusion and if the usual guidelines of points awarded for casualties and obj. were applied, the odds of you getting all the points and him getting none are virtually nil, unless he does nothing and just keeps advancing turns - hell, even then guys with no orders shoot.

This is once again and FINALLY about points being given out randomly by the game system with no actual combat results considered in a surrender scenario - how close your particular game was to these actual point totals has nothing to do with the issue I am speaking to - your game isn't relative to the point I am making here.

All I am addressing is the inequity of awarding all the points to one person via the surrender option in ANY game, regardless of the combat that occurred - that's it.

Congrats on your victory - the way the game awards points for a surrender isn't your problem. I'm glad this came up as a topic - but I'm sorry you feel like the winner gets screwed by getting all the points. I think the term getting screwed is a bit harsh, but the other three guys in your group are now going to have to deal with this situation and the way the game scores surrenders, and I don't think it's fair to them.