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Low Ammo OOB
10-14-2010, 09:25 PM,
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RE: Low Ammo OOB
Simon

Its your call you asked for input dismiss if disagree, what I would like to see & have modeled a couple of times as think has greatest effect is as said more adjustments to support weapons not the squads main weapon.
Its also a lot less work.

So main changes.
Ammo reductions for HMG MMG even LMGs so squad is down to rifles once its out.
If wanted to do some extra work make some new formations hence Red Green Blue suggestion.
2 HMG & an ammo wagon
Some Infantry companies with mixed squad choice.
Example German made up of 2 squad types one with AT weapons one without as not enough to go round. Sorry not everyone gets a PF get him in place.
If want to model units that truly have supply problems so very limited ammo weapons missing completly but this is diffrent then use conscripts & adjust accordingly, morale will be low probably starving/freezing to.

As to picking up ammo etc not being modeled correct but that does not mean its not assumed.
My view generalising.
You are not going to pick up something heavy or that you do not know how to use but assume most could use a rifle.
You are making the assumption SMG units will have the smallest number of shots, sounds right. But but they are also killing people at near point blank would you not go & pick up his weapon if yours is nearly out. So really he should now have a rifle say but game just says carry on with SMG but instead of 30 shots give him say 45 to allow for picking stuff up.
Yes on occasion might pick up something heavier even if dont know how to use it but it takes a special kind of guy to pick up an AT weapon & decide to see if he can get it to work.
The guy already loaded down with loads of ammo is not going to pick up much but as you are suggesting the Russians probably wish they had more so would likely take what they could from fallen soldiers.
In summary the less ammo you have for your main weapon the more likely you are to make an effort to get more.
Game wise if the LMG runs out first the squad can still fight but thats a big lump of its firepower gone especially at medium range & above.
Want to get real reduce late war German artillery loadouts by 50-70% with no reloads allowed 10 or so shells per gun per day was not uncommon but people would moan I only get 2 fire missions.

Like I say Simon its your call my view is just adjusting ammo for the main squad weapon has the least impact is the most time consuming & in my view there is an argument for it & only it to be set higher than what they were issued with.
Just doing the 4 main sides probably talking about changing well over a thousand units.
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Messages In This Thread
Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-09-2010, 11:09 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-10-2010, 03:41 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by jadpanther - 10-10-2010, 11:43 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Walrus - 10-10-2010, 11:53 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-11-2010, 04:17 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-11-2010, 01:17 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-11-2010, 10:30 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-12-2010, 02:47 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-13-2010, 03:13 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-13-2010, 05:46 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-13-2010, 12:59 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-13-2010, 10:41 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-14-2010, 02:18 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-14-2010, 03:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 03:51 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 05:43 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 09:42 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 09:58 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Walrus - 10-14-2010, 09:56 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-14-2010, 11:26 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 10:14 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-15-2010, 01:15 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 09:25 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-15-2010, 01:55 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-15-2010, 06:37 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-15-2010, 09:18 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-18-2010, 09:06 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-28-2010, 03:24 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-28-2010, 09:05 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 10-29-2010, 04:22 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-30-2010, 12:04 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-28-2010, 04:43 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-30-2010, 03:11 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 10-30-2010, 06:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-31-2010, 11:18 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-04-2010, 08:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 11-06-2010, 12:49 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-12-2010, 07:01 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by gabeeg - 11-13-2010, 10:25 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-14-2010, 04:58 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 11-14-2010, 05:19 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-30-2010, 06:38 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Vesku - 10-30-2010, 03:13 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Gila - 10-30-2010, 05:38 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Vesku - 10-30-2010, 06:49 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Gila - 10-30-2010, 07:07 PM

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