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				Tournament? 
				 
					Assuming I can come up with a decent format and pull off some simple tournament management skills and you don't mind putting up with a rookie tourny master... 
 
Who'd be up for a tournament? I'm thinking keep it simple, JTCS WF/EF. Maybe RS? No ME, unless all signups play it. 
 
Thoughts or ideas? 
 
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					12-07-2019, 07:50 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				
					 (12-07-2019, 07:24 AM)Scud Wrote:  Assuming I can come up with a decent format and pull off some simple tournament management skills and you don't mind putting up with a rookie tourny master... 
 
Who'd be up for a tournament? I'm thinking keep it simple, JTCS WF/EF. Maybe RS? No ME, unless all signups play it. 
 
Thoughts or ideas? 
 
Dave 
I would be interested, we are moving home in a few weeks, so my play will be delayed a bit. I cant commit till the move is settled etc. 
 But you can count me in,  
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					12-07-2019, 10:14 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				 
					Count me in. I don't have ME. And am less interested in RS.   Simple EF WF is good for me.
				 
				
				
				
				
				 
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					12-07-2019, 11:44 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				 
					Dave, 
 
A WF tourney sounds good to me. I would much rather have CSME but we already had one of those. Besides everyone doesn't own CSME. EFII is at a super saturation point with me so I am shy in suggesting that kind of tourney at the moment. But than again what does the players think who want to play in it. 
 
Another thing, I have never run a tourney but if you need help I am your lieutenant!! Or if your more agreeable your equal so we both go down together....LOL!! 
 
 
Very willing to help you Dave even though the wife has a busted ankle and I'm running around at 65 years old on overdrive. Her car died too for good after 19 years so that's another chore that needs done. Other gaming pressures too. Finally, dare I say it, the Holidays. Yeah, I think I'm OK... 
 
I suggest a double elimination where even with one loss one gets a chance to go on. After two eliminations, sorry but their gone. 
 
I fancy the latter part of the war on the western front say '43 through '45. I like the evolution of the weapon systems in action. But depending on what the majority votes for, all the periods on the WF are OK by me. Suggest a quick survey to see what players think! 
 
First off I think we should get a tally of interested players after the survey and period of the war on the West Front. Then we can review the scenario data base for balanced playable scenarios with input before we make the list. Suggest we use only proven scenarios based on number of times played first. Later we can sift through that list  based on DB individual scenario opinions. Finally when we come up with a list we push it out to the participants for their opinion. Think if we keep it between 5-8 scenarios that is doable within a suitable time frame. 
 
Finally I have been through enough tourneys where some players drag their fannies for whatever legitimate or non-legitimate reason IMO.  Sorry folks but that's the way it goes sometime, life is life. We need to set strict time limits on playing through scenarios and getting them done. The worst thing that can happen in a tourney is leaving it open ended on time. If you do that it will die for sure. My point is a 15 to 20 turn scenario should not take a year to play. An acceptable playing turn around is typically 2-3 turns per week. Gauge it by that. 
 
Always open for other ideas from anyone.  
 
Regards all, 
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				RE: Tournament? 
				
					 (12-07-2019, 11:44 AM)Big Ivan Wrote:  Dave, 
 
A WF tourney sounds good to me. I would much rather have CSME but we already had one of those. Besides everyone doesn't own CSME. EFII is at a super saturation point with me so I am shy in suggesting that kind of tourney at the moment. But than again what does the players think who want to play in it. 
 
Another thing, I have never run a tourney but if you need help I am your lieutenant!! Or if your more agreeable your equal so we both go down together....LOL!! 
 
 
Very willing to help you Dave even though the wife has a busted ankle and I'm running around at 65 years old on overdrive. Her car died too for good after 19 years so that's another chore that needs done. Other gaming pressures too. Finally, dare I say it, the Holidays. Yeah, I think I'm OK... 
 
I suggest a double elimination where even with one loss one gets a chance to go on. After two eliminations, sorry but their gone. 
 
I fancy the latter part of the war on the western front say '43 through '45. I like the evolution of the weapon systems in action. But depending on what the majority votes for, all the periods on the WF are OK by me. Suggest a quick survey to see what players think! 
 
First off I think we should get a tally of interested players after the survey and period of the war on the West Front. Then we can review the scenario data base for balanced playable scenarios with input before we make the list. Suggest we use only proven scenarios based on number of times played first. Later we can sift through that list  based on DB individual scenario opinions. Finally when we come up with a list we push it out to the participants for their opinion. Think if we keep it between 5-8 scenarios that is doable within a suitable time frame. 
 
Finally I have been through enough tourneys where some players drag their fannies for whatever legitimate or non-legitimate reason IMO.  Sorry folks but that's the way it goes sometime, life is life. We need to set strict time limits on playing through scenarios and getting them done. The worst thing that can happen in a tourney is leaving it open ended on time. If you do that it will die for sure. My point is a 15 to 20 turn scenario should not take a year to play. An acceptable playing turn around is typically 2-3 turns per week. Gauge it by that. 
 
Always open for other ideas from anyone.  
 
Regards all, 
John 
Sorry my bad doesn't have to be West Front. It could be East Front or a combination. Don't think it should be using Rising Sun unless we stick strictly to the Pacific War. Two entirely different wars and how they were fought.
				  
				
				
				
				
				 
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					12-08-2019, 01:15 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				 
					I'm in.
				 
				
				
				
				
				 
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				RE: Tournament? 
				
					So far: 
1. Scud (long as no one minds my participating in my own tourny     ) 
2. Oldbones 
3. Zap 
4. Big Ivan 
5. Kernel t 
6. Herr Straße Laufer 
7. Warhorse 
8. Tiger 88 
9. PawelM 
10. Nort 
11. Dawags 
12. Outlaw Josey Wales 
13. Dan Caviness 
14. Cam 
15. Juan Manuel 
16. Infantrysoldier223 
17. Fritzfarlig 
18. Panzerjaeger 
19. Deutscher Landser 
20. Ed 
21.  itlnprd 
22. Ashcloud
23. John Given
24. Hawk Kriegsman
 25. mark_vanroosendaal 
26. Oberst 
27. Maus Man 
28. Scaz 
29. Aces8 
30. Ade670 
31. Quijote Libre 
32. Von Luck
 
Double elimination, WF/EF. I think we should start first or second week of January? That gets the holidays and traveling etc. out of the way? I plan to chose the most oft played scenarios that are most evenly balanced, highly rated and that most of use are familiar with. If agreed, no mirror games? Or would you prefer two mirrored games per opponent. My concern with mirrors is it makes for a longer tourny and possible dropouts, but I'm good either way.
 
Further suggestions? Name of the tourney? I'll design medals for participants and winners.
				  
				
				
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					12-08-2019, 08:35 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				 
					NAME= suggestion, maybe call it Purple Heart Tourney? 
 
Mirror= It does not matter to me but I'm a regular turn return player with lots of free time. I understand your fear of extended time possibly means longer delays delays. 
 
January = good for me, seems a good choice. 
 
Double elimination = good for me since I expect to be defeated first game played Lol
				 
				
				
				
				
				 
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					12-08-2019, 09:18 AM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				
					Name = The Latest CS Tourney 
Mirrored play = yes 
January = Is a new year and a new start 
Double Elimination = OK
 
How about looking into H2H custom scenarios? Or, those that are listed for H2H (though mirrored play eliminates the need, it is often better that the scenarios are relatively balanced for enjoyment). 
 
I don't mind EF/WF/RS. 
I don't own ME. Though if you want to use it I can take the two losses (just make them later in the tourney)    
BTW, I'm in if you want a beat up old horse.   
I've run plenty of tourneys. I just don't have the desire or more importantly the time.   
John was right too. Players need to not drag their feet. Others then get disinterested and the whole tournament drags on.
 
If you need help or pointers please feel free to send me an e-mail?
  
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					12-08-2019, 02:38 PM,  
				 
				
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				RE: Tournament? 
				 
					Sorry no mirrors for me.
				 
				
				
				
				
				 
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