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HPS PzC II
12-13-2014, 12:58 PM,
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RE: HPS PzC II
(12-12-2014, 10:23 PM)dgk196 Wrote: Hello...


I get what you are saying... I hope. But as I said 'scale' has nothing to do with it. When the game keeps track of individual gun, vehicle and personnel losses, there is no 'scale'. Its one to one.

There is a map scale to be sure and there is a time scale. But again, its irrelevant. If I had a game where the hexes where 250m per then the ranges would become relevant to be sure... it would determine how close you need to get to use your weapons systems. And it would determine how much takes place at that scale for a given amount of time.

But, the results of 'attacking' would be the same if the scale of the map where 250m, 1km or 10 km. The units involved would still have their relative attack / defense factors, their relative ranges and the results of an attack would still be accounted for in terms of individual gun, tank or personnel losses.

That's what I meant when I said that scale doesn't matter. Hope I cleared up my somewhat vague descriptions!

Dennis Jester

If scale is irrelevant, then individual weapon systems (smoke included) are also irrelevant.

For instance, where does your smoke land in a 1km hex? If each turn is 2 hours, how long is that smoke going to remain visible and effective? All individual weapon systems, ammunition, and supplies are abstracted into the attack/defense values of the unit and have no bearing on the combat results.

Depending on what it is you are trying to simulate, scale plays a very big role. I also believe that the combat results we see in Pzc are abstractions. Sure, it says an individual gun, man, or vehicle, but those are nothing but abstractions of attack/defensive values.
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HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-05-2014, 01:57 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by 76mm - 10-07-2014, 05:53 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by vsadek - 10-07-2014, 06:48 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-10-2014, 08:51 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by 76mm - 10-10-2014, 03:08 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by PzKw43 - 10-12-2014, 02:46 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-12-2014, 03:20 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 10-12-2014, 06:51 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-12-2014, 01:29 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 10-17-2014, 05:09 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by tbridges - 10-17-2014, 09:17 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 10-18-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by 76mm - 10-12-2014, 03:09 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-13-2014, 09:58 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-17-2014, 10:24 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 10-17-2014, 12:55 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-24-2014, 04:59 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 10-24-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Xaver - 10-24-2014, 05:59 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 10-25-2014, 02:00 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Xaver - 10-26-2014, 12:23 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 10-26-2014, 05:58 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 10-27-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 10-29-2014, 05:57 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 11-01-2014, 09:16 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-02-2014, 05:17 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Fhil - 11-02-2014, 09:05 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 11-03-2014, 12:43 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-03-2014, 04:09 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-03-2014, 04:48 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-03-2014, 05:15 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 11-03-2014, 07:54 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 11-03-2014, 10:40 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-06-2014, 02:52 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 11-06-2014, 11:45 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 11-07-2014, 02:26 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 11-29-2014, 02:14 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-06-2014, 01:50 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Buccaneer - 12-07-2014, 02:13 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-08-2014, 10:31 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-08-2014, 01:12 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 12-09-2014, 01:22 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Buccaneer - 12-09-2014, 12:04 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-12-2014, 10:23 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Buccaneer - 12-13-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 12-13-2014, 12:50 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-13-2014, 08:37 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-14-2014, 02:51 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-14-2014, 08:08 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-14-2014, 09:57 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-14-2014, 06:05 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Buccaneer - 12-15-2014, 01:41 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-15-2014, 03:02 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-15-2014, 07:41 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-17-2014, 01:14 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-17-2014, 03:04 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-18-2014, 01:13 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by BigDuke66 - 12-18-2014, 02:38 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-18-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-22-2014, 04:31 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-22-2014, 05:55 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-22-2014, 11:02 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-22-2014, 02:35 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-27-2014, 01:55 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 12-27-2014, 06:40 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 12-27-2014, 10:40 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Xaver - 12-29-2014, 01:38 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 01-02-2015, 12:54 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Fonebone - 01-02-2015, 03:19 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2015, 12:47 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 01-03-2015, 07:26 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 01-04-2015, 03:34 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Dog Soldier - 01-04-2015, 04:12 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 01-04-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Aolain - 01-04-2015, 10:23 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 01-05-2015, 04:43 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 01-04-2015, 02:42 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Xaver - 01-04-2015, 07:30 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Buccaneer - 01-05-2015, 07:22 AM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 01-06-2015, 12:39 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by USS Wyoming - 01-06-2015, 03:08 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Xaver - 01-06-2015, 10:41 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by dgk196 - 01-12-2015, 03:29 PM
RE: HPS PzC II - by Don Czirr - 02-12-2015, 03:19 AM

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