The Competition & Teaser Thread

[ComradeP]

Well, in the last days appear info that made ComradeP and me doubt about or sure "PzB Kursk South flank" prediction... i feel like a mouse used by cats as toy Big Grin2

Well, there are still many signs pointing to Kursk, including how nicely the map would fit in terms of dimensions. 6th Guards Army's there, II SS Panzer Korps (presumably), III Panzer Korps, 5th Guards Tank Army and crucially: commanders for III Panzer Korps that died or were no longer in command shortly after the battle. Equally important, the Panzer divisions that were shown to be in III Panzer Korps were no longer all in III Panzer Korps in August (although I'm not sure of the precise dates).

There are other signs too. For example, the Mius operation was fought mostly by 2 Guards formations. The attacks near Izuym were launched by, I believe, 2 mobile corps. In the screenshot of the larger scenario, we can see what looks like (elements of) at least 3 Tank Corps.

All my German and English sources on Kursk are elsewhere, so I can only work with Soviet sources and sadly those don't show the precise route of advance or retreat of II SS Panzer Korps.

The Germans seem to be in a balanced defensive deployment.

The road still troubles me. If you look at these maps, only one major road is indicated and it bends the wrong way in the place where it comes close to the river in the SS's movement path. Furthermore, the map in the scenario is 30 kilometres high, which really doesn't fit, unless that grey thing is actually a railroad for some reason in which case it could be an initial Soviet counterattack.

The map isn't big enough to cover Rumyantsev, not to mention that when it started the SS was in Italy, near Izyum or at the Mius. When Das Reich and Totenkopf counterattacked, the frontline wasn't nearly as neatly straight as in that screenshot at the Mius and they attacked from the south during Rumyantsev.

Ah well, we might feel silly around release when it's something completely different, but I'm just not really sure what else it could be.