The Competition & Teaser Thread

[Strela]

Thanks for the OOB pic.

A little question, the mortar range is not a little high??? 20x250=5.000m a lot over the mortar range, practically double it ever over arty guns range.

It's an error. I picked up a wrong value from the database. It's been adjusted back down to nine hexes. Thanks for picking it up.

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I would also question the infantry range(soft) of 4 -1000m. Effective rifle range is around 400m (2) and the LMG might push out to 600m. (3). Anything beyond that would be on a wing and a prayer.

We're discussing this now :)

That said there is a range attenuation algorithm that will obviously drop these values dramatically once you are shooting that far away.

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The ranges are indeed peculiar. The mortars fire twice as fire as their historical counterparts normally would, and the leIG 18 has a shorter range.

I also wonder why some infantry squads have a range of 2, like the Pioniere, whilst other infantry squads also with LMG's as their furthest reaching weapon have a range of 4. On the other hand, it makes sense if the PzG zug includes halftrack mounted heavy weapons.

It's as if some equipment is still balanced for a different scale or something.

The sPzB's performance is also a bit odd: its effective range was only about 500 meters, and due to its small calibre its fragmentation shells were not impressive. However, it could reliably penetrate the armour of a T-34 at short range (in game terms about 1 hex) because of its tungsten high velocity shell. If the in-game T-34's still have a defence of about 17, like in Moscow '42, both the sPzB and the PaK 38 will have trouble penetrating the armour at all ranges.

I guess that's the problem of having a single hard attack value that needs to be averaged out, which means "the next step up" from a gun can offer dramatically increased performance at all ranges even though historical performance improvements at short ranges might not have been spectacular (for example: the PaK 40 could penetrate about 1.5 times as much armour as a PaK 38 at 500 meters and below, the real gap in capabilities only really started to appear at greater ranges).

The shorter range for the Pioniere reflect the increased dependence on SMG's and other shorter range small arms.

The PzGr here are motorised. The SPW PzGr have an (arm) in their name and slightly higher values to represent the SPW's.

As mentioned above there is a range attenuation algorithm that effects everything that direct fires over one hex range.

All the values shown here were done by Ed 'Volcano' Man using his McNamara database. We will double check anything of great concern, but keep in mind we have been play testing with these values.

David