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Several Moscow 42 Questions
11-17-2012, 06:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-17-2012, 06:23 AM by ComradeP.)
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RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions
(11-17-2012, 05:00 AM)raizer Wrote: so what you are trying to say is that a fighting withdrawal, conducted at the operational level, is proving to be terribly difficult under the best of circumstances, not to mention having to perform one in the coldest winter of the 20th century?

No, what I'm saying is that there's a chance units are destroyed at an ahistorically high rate, with the resulting high casualties (I guess this applies to both sides).

A full campaign test will have to show whether it really is the case, but I fear that casualties might be substantially higher than they were historically.

For example: AGC (the entire Army Group, all armies in it combined) reported losses of, on average 463 KIA, 1674 WIA and 208 MIA per day in the period of January 1st to January 10th 1942. That's about 2345 men per day at one of the peak times of the 1941-1942 winter offensive, or about 390 men per daylight turn. In game terms, you can achieve that with between 8 and 16 assaults with 3 battalions vs. 1 German battalion, without any artillery fire.
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Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-09-2012, 03:13 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-09-2012, 10:06 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 12:24 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 12:42 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-10-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 01:47 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 01:24 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 05:01 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 11-10-2012, 05:24 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 02:52 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 04:01 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-10-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-10-2012, 05:10 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by -72- - 11-10-2012, 07:30 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 11-11-2012, 01:12 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-11-2012, 01:22 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-12-2012, 01:58 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 11-12-2012, 03:19 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-12-2012, 06:38 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-12-2012, 03:51 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Ricky B - 11-12-2012, 04:27 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 11-12-2012, 05:05 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-12-2012, 05:27 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 11-12-2012, 06:00 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-12-2012, 10:51 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-13-2012, 02:57 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-13-2012, 01:19 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-13-2012, 03:24 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-13-2012, 04:08 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-13-2012, 08:33 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Ricky B - 11-13-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-13-2012, 01:02 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-15-2012, 02:35 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-15-2012, 04:30 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-15-2012, 06:54 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-15-2012, 07:06 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-15-2012, 07:54 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 05:09 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-15-2012, 07:17 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-16-2012, 12:42 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-16-2012, 05:37 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-16-2012, 08:30 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 01:08 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-16-2012, 01:24 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 02:48 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-16-2012, 07:18 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 09:16 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 09:40 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-16-2012, 09:55 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-17-2012, 01:40 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-17-2012, 05:44 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-17-2012, 05:56 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-17-2012, 06:21 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-17-2012, 01:21 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-17-2012, 01:26 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-17-2012, 03:56 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-17-2012, 10:20 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-17-2012, 04:45 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-17-2012, 05:00 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-17-2012, 06:09 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Ricky B - 11-17-2012, 01:43 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-17-2012, 05:33 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Al - 11-17-2012, 05:38 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liquid_Sky - 11-17-2012, 03:45 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 11-17-2012, 05:16 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-17-2012, 06:20 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-17-2012, 08:05 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-18-2012, 08:57 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-18-2012, 03:59 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-19-2012, 12:42 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-18-2012, 09:04 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-20-2012, 05:25 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liquid_Sky - 11-20-2012, 08:08 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-21-2012, 07:25 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-22-2012, 01:25 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-22-2012, 01:50 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-22-2012, 02:39 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-22-2012, 07:00 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 11-28-2012, 12:15 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 11-22-2012, 06:20 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-26-2012, 05:07 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-28-2012, 12:59 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 11-28-2012, 01:56 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-28-2012, 03:23 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 11-28-2012, 04:24 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-28-2012, 04:38 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 11-28-2012, 04:42 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-28-2012, 05:44 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liquid_Sky - 11-28-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-28-2012, 04:11 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-28-2012, 08:07 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-28-2012, 08:22 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-29-2012, 12:52 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 11-29-2012, 04:19 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 11-29-2012, 10:29 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 12-01-2012, 01:02 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-01-2012, 04:58 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 12-01-2012, 08:07 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-01-2012, 12:06 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by bdtj1815 - 12-01-2012, 07:36 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-01-2012, 08:47 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-01-2012, 10:21 PM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-02-2012, 12:14 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 12-02-2012, 05:13 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-02-2012, 06:01 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Liebchen - 12-02-2012, 09:06 AM
RE: Couple of Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-02-2012, 09:28 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-02-2012, 02:12 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Marquo - 12-04-2012, 08:23 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-04-2012, 09:22 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-08-2012, 03:30 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-08-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-10-2012, 05:04 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Dog Soldier - 12-11-2012, 03:43 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-11-2012, 04:46 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Mr Grumpy - 12-10-2012, 05:31 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by raizer - 12-10-2012, 06:33 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Ricky B - 12-10-2012, 06:36 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-10-2012, 12:56 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-10-2012, 10:23 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-10-2012, 11:23 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-10-2012, 11:57 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-11-2012, 12:35 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-11-2012, 12:46 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-12-2012, 10:00 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-12-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-13-2012, 01:15 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-13-2012, 06:16 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-13-2012, 08:33 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-19-2012, 07:48 PM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Liquid_Sky - 12-20-2012, 05:54 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-20-2012, 02:47 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by JDR Dragoon - 12-20-2012, 03:20 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by 76mm - 12-20-2012, 06:00 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-20-2012, 05:02 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by Strela - 12-20-2012, 08:40 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-20-2012, 06:53 AM
RE: Several Moscow 42 Questions - by ComradeP - 12-20-2012, 10:22 AM

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