The armed half-track

[Herr Straße Laufer]

Strange discussion here:
In play and design, just do "what really happened".
Try to reason from real events to the game not the other way around.

Try to understand that the 6 minutes turn refers to what the manual said units could do in six minutes real time; however a turn is not framed in six minutes.
A turn represents multiple events which do not necessarily take place in the same six minutes, but could well be between 9:00 AM and 11:00 AM for example, or whatever the time is, the designer has decided that the next turn or sequence of events starts.
In such a timespan it is very well possible to build a roadblock, minefield, light bridge etc in real life, in other timespans it might not be. That depends on the actual events the designer wants to represent in his scenario. So nothing holds you back from adding units that can perform tasks that take longer than six minutes. It all depends on "what really happened".

All scenarios work as described above.

On this we will disagree. :chin:
To me, scale is important.
Time is what set the size of the hexes, speed of the units, and should have been a determining factor in what a unit could do in a given turn (of six minutes).
I believe the new Matrix team lost the scale of time. Will we be getting engineers that can build airfields or harbors in a turn? If scale is unimportant and we need to use the planes that don't fly and the bathtub naval units, we will need harbors and airfields to be built? :rolleyes:
Yes, I know the argument is from the absurd. But, it is also absurd to think that scale is no longer important.
I don't think the new direction of "time is relative to the situation you are modeling" is the way to go.
Most early scenario designs covered brief snipits of parts of battles. It was rare to see an entire operation covered by the early designers?

It is one of the reasons I do not like to play anything (except team games) that are more than forty turns. Even then it is pushing it.
There are many offerings of "operational" sized games, TAOW and Panzer Campaigns come to mind, that cover larger areas and longer blocks of time.

I do not like the premise of having to think in abstract concerning the game scale. I see each scenario as a piece of a fight in an operation and not an operational piece that covers multi hours or days.

And, before I get the "but even now they cannot do it in six minutes", I know. Trying to make it "slide" even more just takes it away from the intended parameters even further. So the argument does not fly? At least with me it won't. :smoke:



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