Which counts more ...

[Hawk Kriegsman]

Ziess was never told he had to replay the turn by either myself or Panther, he volunteered it as a more than fair show of sportsmanship that reflect well of himself and should define him as an exemplary opponent.

I understand that he was not told he had to offer to replay the turn. Yes ziess is a exemplary opponent (he is helping me with learning DGVN) and if this was not a tournament game it would be fine. This whole episode calls into question the lack of sportsmanship by one of the players.

On the other hand Panther has still not publicly stated if he will take that option or just continue as is.

Yes I understand that.

Panther went to this formum for a public opinion and probably got a bit more than bargained for.

Agreed

As stated I could easily way in and stated the turn must continue as is and not be replayed but to what point.

This is what should be done. To allow a replay of a turn when there is not cause or reason other than one person complaining that he didn;t understand the scenario or disapproves of his foes tactics is ludicrous to me.

They have reach a comprimise amonst themselves and neither formally complained to me.

It is a comprimise that should not be allowed.

I think with them both being European and there being possible language issues that a clarification of the rules was asked for and very clearly given.

First off blaming them being European is a cop out.

Second off when is exiting your units off the board through your exit hex need to be clarified??!!

Panther is not a rookie by any means. He has 94 games under his belt. Not knowing that your foe may exit his units through an exit hex is inexcusable.

As part of that Zeiss willingly stepped to the plate and stated ok even though I am within the rules I think maybe something was misunderstood by either or both of us and here is what I propose.

Yes I understand that. But what was misunderstood by Panther is something that he should know! That being your foe can exit his units through his exit hex.

As the tourney host I chose to let it be at that?

You can do what you like but if you look at Panther's comments he is complaining that zeiss exited his units and did not engage in him in combat.

I give you:

He use the exit Hex in round 8 from 18 without any possibilities for defending or secure the Hex (All units in this area are fixed!).

and:

Maybe it´s one possibility to play a game. But look for one moment at the situation from my side. You play with well led moves and the points change in one round from -125 to +195! What i saw was the exit of Heli´s, Platoons, Officers, ...

Don´t get me wrong. If i had lost the points by a fight ... but at this way in round 8 ... not very lucky.

This is in my opinion sour grapes period. He got out maneuvered and no cries foul.

Why was that wrong?

Because it sets a bad example for the next tournament.

What's next?

Claims that some tanks can't cross small bridges?
Someone led an attack with an anti-tank rifle platoon?
Halftracks were used wrecklessly and agressively against me?
My opponent had units that I didn't know their capabilities?
I had no idea that US forces in DGVN are worth way more than the NVA and VC forces?

Sorry one foe is crying foul when nothing wrong was commited and you are facilitating it.

That is what is wrong.

Thanx!

Hawk