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					04-18-2011, 04:57 AM,  
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			| Command vs. Leadership 
					Can someone explain the real difference between Leaders' command ratings and their leadership ratings?
				 
				
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					04-18-2011, 10:52 PM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					Command Rating, the first number in this oob example, is the number used for the command test when you are trying to undisorder a unit.  In game it is affected by dice rolls in the chain of command.
 Leadership rating is a Leader's ability to help rally a routed unit.  If this number is higher than the unit's base morale it is used, otherwise +1.
 
 L 3 4 3 GD Tharreau:  For this division leader 3 is his unmodified command rating and 4 is his leadership rating.
 
				
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					04-19-2011, 06:02 AM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					"Leadership rating is a Leader's ability to help rally a routed unit.  If this number is higher than the unit's base morale it is used, otherwise +1."
 In other words, if you have Napoleon & Ney @ Waterloo (both A leadership) those fellows rally routed units very well if you stack them with the routed units. But British command structure is a bit better with Wellington an A command as opposed to Napoleon C. That means Wellington is always going to pass on a positive modifier to help units rally from disorder to good order while with Napoleon it is dicey.  jonny :rolleyes:
 
				
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					04-19-2011, 06:09 AM,  
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						|  | FM WarB   Captain
 
  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					Actually, a 6 Command rated leader has a very small chance of failing his Command dice roll.
				 
				
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					04-19-2011, 06:25 AM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					"Actually, a 6 Command rated leader has a very small chance of failing his Command dice roll."
 Correct: If Wellington's batsman is late with Tea, then His Grace would fail his command test. :( :eek1:
 
				
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					04-19-2011, 06:54 AM,  
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						|  | FM WarB   Captain
 
  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					It happens, occaisionally to any 6 Command rated leader.
				 
				
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					04-20-2011, 05:31 AM,  
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						|  | Liebchen   Colonel
 
  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					I am unclear on the game distinction between regaining order and rallying.  Why do they use two different ratings?  Don't they both entail leaders asserting their leadership over wavering troops?
				 
				
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					04-20-2011, 07:35 AM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					Rallying is the situation where the troops broke and ran; routed units. Then a commander like Napoleon rides over with an A leadership, joins them (by stacking with them) and says "Gentlemen pull yourselves together" and they rally from routed to disordered. That's leadership.
 The command rating, implies the chain of command, where a unit is disordered, or without orders, and they then receive orders and and execute command decisions and move from disordered to full order. So Napoleon is a C for this, as we all know he wasn't feeling too well on June 18, 1815 and spend a lot of time at the windmill. jonny :smoke:
 
				
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					04-21-2011, 01:52 AM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					johnny,
 I'll be happy to make le tondu a C for Command the next time you are Nappy...
 
				
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					04-21-2011, 04:50 AM,  
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			| RE: Command vs. Leadership 
					Thanks all for your explanations.
				 
				
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