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Artillery spotting - CountryBoy - 09-04-2019 I have a question about artillery spotting. I have two artillery units from the 11th Artillery Division, a Russian formation fighting near Budapest, nearly adjacent to each other. One of the units can fire upon a German occupied hex a short distance away, but the other unit cannot. Why is that? The hex is within range of both units and there must be a subordinate spotting unit if one of them can fire, but why can't the other unit fire? Thanks. RE: Artillery spotting - Zoetermeer - 09-05-2019 When you try to fire, what is the message displayed in the bottom lefthand corner? That should give you some insight into why it can't shoot. RE: Artillery spotting - CountryBoy - 09-05-2019 I can't remember the exact working, but it is something along the lines of "target is 5 hexes beyond maximum target range" or something. The number changes depending on the target hex, so even if the target was two hexes away the message is "target is 2 hexes beyond maximum target range". The unit is definitely not unavailable, is not disrupted, is set up and has all its movement points. There's actually a few units in similar situation, where one artillery unit has been able to fire but a neighboring unit of the same division is unable to fire. RE: Artillery spotting - Zoetermeer - 09-05-2019 When you right-click on the unit details what values do you see for hard/soft and their respective ranges? RE: Artillery spotting - Ricky B - 09-05-2019 Agreed with where Zoetermeer is going - the 11th Artillery has some units with HA range of 1 hex and others that are 10 or 11 hexes. So I am fairly confident the target is a hard target (tanks or something) and one of the units is the 76mm guns with an HA of 14/1. RE: Artillery spotting - CountryBoy - 09-05-2019 Ah ok, I will check it out tonight when I am home. The targets are bunkers and/or pillboxes, so that seems to be the most likely explanation. RE: Artillery spotting - CountryBoy - 09-05-2019 Yep, you guys are correct, it is a 76mm gun with only a HA of 17/1. Didn't even occur to me that it couldn't hit a hard target. Thanks guys. RE: Artillery spotting - Mr Grumpy - 09-06-2019 We live and learn! 
RE: Artillery spotting - CountryBoy - 09-06-2019 That begs the question though, why does it have a hard attack range of just 1? I'm not in the military so I don't have real experience of such a weapon, but surely it could do some long distance damage? RE: Artillery spotting - CheerfullyInsane - 09-06-2019 In theory yes, but try hitting a moving armored vehicle with an indirect fire weapon, using a spotter over a radio. The ammunition expended would probably weigh more than the target.  And combat-values normally also reflect current doctrine. The 17/1 value would indicate that it's possible to use it as an AT-weapon, but only in dire circumstances and when able to use direct fire. I doubt that the real-life commanders would consider an armored unit a worthwhile target for a 76mm HE shell, especially in the later war-years. There's usually plenty of more worthwhile targets around. |
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