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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - anton dolf - 02-20-2010

Soviet Scud Deployment 1990:
Western Group (GSSD)
direct:
164.Missile Bde, 27 Launcher (3Bn with 3Batt with 3 Launchers each)
175.Missile Bde 27

1.Guards Tank Army
181.Missile Bde 12 (2x2x3)

2.Guars Tank AMry
112.Missile Bde 12

3.Shock Army
36.Missile Bde 12

20.Guards Army
27.Missile Bde 12


Northern Group of Forces (in Poland)
direct:
114.Missile Bde 12

Baltic Military Dustrict:
149. & 152.Missile Bde 12each

Belorussian Military District
direct
22.Missile Bde 18 (2x3x3)
7.Tank Army
76.Missile Bde 12



Warsaw Pact Countries:

Poland:

High Command
3. Missile Bde

Pomerian District
2.Missile Bde

Silesian District
18.Missile Bde

Warsaw District
32.Missile Bde


CSSR:
High Command
311.Missilie Bde

1.Army
321.Missile Bde

4.Army
331.Missile Bde

DDR:
3th Army
3.Missile Bde (Tautenhain, wnw Gera)

5th Army
5.Missile Bde (Demen, near Oranienburg)

Hungary:
5.Field Army
5.Mixed Missile Bde
Air Defence:
GSSD:
1. Guards Tank Army
53. FRBr Zeithain 9K37 BUK
216. FRR Zeithain 2K12 KUB
1018. FRR Meißen 2K12 KUB
358. GFRR Leisnig 9K33BM OSA

2. Guards Tank Army
61. FRBR Börgnitz 9K37 BUK
66. FRR Neustrelitz 2K12 KUB
896. FRR Schwerin 9K33BM OSA
1079. FRR Perleberg 2K12 KUB
75. FRR Stendal 2K12 KUB
412. selbst.FRR Gardelegen Kruk

3. Shock Army
49. FRBr. Colbitz 9K37 BUK
287. FRR Roßlau 2K12 KUB
359. FRR Altengrabow 9K33BM OAS
933. FRR Burg 2K12 KUB
1009. FRR Hillersleben 2K12 KUB

8. Guards Army
18. FRBr. Gotha 9K37 BUK
286. FRR Halle 9K33 BM OSA
915. FRR Ohrdruf 2K12 KUB
901. FRR Naumburg 2K12 KUB
1075. FRR Weimar 2K12 KUB

20.Guars Army
61.FRBr. Elstal 9K37 BUK
1702. FRR Vogelsang 9K12 KUB
? FRR Jüterbog 9K33 BM OSA
200. FRR Krampitz 9K33 BM OSA
288. FRR Schönwalde 9K33 BM OSA


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Aaron - 02-20-2010

(02-20-2010, 07:50 AM)anton dolf Wrote: Soviet Scud Deployment 1990:
Western Group (GSSD)
direct:
164.Missile Bde, 27 Launcher (3Bn with 3Batt with 3 Launchers each)
175.Missile Bde 27

1.Guards Tank Army
181.Missile Bde 12 (2x2x3)

2.Guars Tank AMry
112.Missile Bde 12

3.Shock Army
36.Missile Bde 12

20.Guards Army
27.Missile Bde 12


Northern Group of Forces (in Poland)
direct:
114.Missile Bde 12

Baltic Military Dustrict:
149. & 152.Missile Bde 12each

Belorussian Military District
direct
22.Missile Bde 18 (2x3x3)
7.Tank Army
76.Missile Bde 12



Warsaw Pact Countries:

Poland:

High Command
3. Missile Bde

Pomerian District
2.Missile Bde

Silesian District
18.Missile Bde

Warsaw District
32.Missile Bde


CSSR:
High Command
311.Missilie Bde

1.Army
321.Missile Bde

4.Army
331.Missile Bde

DDR:
3th Army
3.Missile Bde (Tautenhain, wnw Gera)

5th Army
5.Missile Bde (Demen, near Oranienburg)

Hungary:
5.Field Army
5.Mixed Missile Bde

heres a doc, ive got a few of them. The actual numbers of launchers in each Bde was in flux because of old rockets going out and new ones coming in plus the fact that all the divisional units were being moved to Front level and forming new units. The listings for actual number of rockets in some units are as low as 4 in some cases not 12.

[attachment=2702]

Heres is the SAM unit doc

[attachment=2703]

Aaron

Edit: Not sure why your posting up this info, all these units are in the scenario already.


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Monter - 02-21-2010

Hi! Some minor corrections in names of Polish units.

1. Towed Antitank Units:
Is: papanc = pułk artylerii pancernej (tank artillery regiment, in Polish terminology it means assault guns)
Should be: pappanc = pułk artylerii przeciwpancernej (anti-tank artillery regiment)

2. Amphibious Landing Regiments (in 7th Assault Bde):
Is: bdes = batalion desantowy (landing battalion)
Should be: pdes = pulk desantowy (landing regiment, although with strength of a battalion, it was a regiment)

3. Antiaircraft Regiments
Is: Pulk Przeciwlotniczej
Proper name: Pulk Artylerii Przeciwlotniczej
Well, I understand that you had no room to fill full name. But as it is now, it looks very weird. Przeciwlotniczej is an adjective, referring to a noun Artylerii, which is missing. Either you should use "Pulk Przeciwlotniczy" - this time adjective is referring to noun Pulk, or use a shortcut: "Pulk Art. Przeciwlotniczej" (preferrably) or "Pulk Artylerii Plot"

The same is with already mentioned antitank regiments
Is: Pulk Przeciwpancernej
Proper: Pulk Artylerii Przeciwpancernej
Proposed: Pulk Artylerii Ppanc

BTW great mod! It is very nice to see a game with names of units in Polish!


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Aaron - 02-21-2010

(02-21-2010, 09:43 AM)Monter Wrote: Hi! Some minor corrections in names of Polish units.

1. Towed Antitank Units:
Is: papanc = pułk artylerii pancernej (tank artillery regiment, in Polish terminology it means assault guns)
Should be: pappanc = pułk artylerii przeciwpancernej (anti-tank artillery regiment)

2. Amphibious Landing Regiments (in 7th Assault Bde):
Is: bdes = batalion desantowy (landing battalion)
Should be: pdes = pulk desantowy (landing regiment, although with strength of a battalion, it was a regiment)

3. Antiaircraft Regiments
Is: Pulk Przeciwlotniczej
Proper name: Pulk Artylerii Przeciwlotniczej
Well, I understand that you had no room to fill full name. But as it is now, it looks very weird. Przeciwlotniczej is an adjective, referring to a noun Artylerii, which is missing. Either you should use "Pulk Przeciwlotniczy" - this time adjective is referring to noun Pulk, or use a shortcut: "Pulk Art. Przeciwlotniczej" (preferrably) or "Pulk Artylerii Plot"

The same is with already mentioned antitank regiments
Is: Pulk Przeciwpancernej
Proper: Pulk Artylerii Przeciwpancernej
Proposed: Pulk Artylerii Ppanc

BTW great mod! It is very nice to see a game with names of units in Polish!

Thanks ill make those changes, as for the proper names i knew what they were but yes they are to long, 25 characters MAX but to be safe 21-23 is good. Had to cut them down to fit. You should see some of the Russian names, thats why you wont see any of them in the mod, i think some of them are 40 characters long

EDIT-Had to go with Pulk Artylerii Plot
If it a pappanc wouldnt the front change also to bappanc/pappanc?

other than that done and updated thanks, do you know any Flemish? :rolleyes: weve had a hell of a time trying to figure out the differences between Flemish and Dutch.

Aaron

Should have 4.6 by next friday im thinking, i keep getting side tracked.


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Aaron - 02-23-2010

Just wanted to show off my masterpiece since i wont be using it in the scenario due to them not being all that effective except for proofing an area after the miclic is used and that it wasnt really used till 1990.


A M1 with the Mine Clearing Roller System (MCRS)
[attachment=2709]

damn aint she beautiful, my pride and joy


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Lowlander - 02-23-2010

(02-23-2010, 08:13 AM)tazaaron Wrote: Just wanted to show off my masterpiece since i wont be using it in the scenario due to them not being all that effective except for proofing an area after the miclic is used and that it wasnt really used till 1990.


A M1 with the Mine Clearing Roller System (MCRS)


damn aint she beautiful, my pride and joy

And I was saving this for the other side !!!


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Aaron - 02-23-2010

(02-23-2010, 09:07 AM)Lowlander Wrote:
(02-23-2010, 08:13 AM)tazaaron Wrote: Just wanted to show off my masterpiece since i wont be using it in the scenario due to them not being all that effective except for proofing an area after the miclic is used and that it wasnt really used till 1990.


A M1 with the Mine Clearing Roller System (MCRS)


damn aint she beautiful, my pride and joy

And I was saving this for the other side !!!

Oh no you didnt, i like mine better and i have one for every tank model and these are going to be used, not all to effective though, so ive limited how many units are flagged for mine clear, 1Bn per WP division

[attachment=2712]
[attachment=2713]

Aaron


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Lowlander - 02-23-2010

I find these to be more cost effective and so much easier to get them to fit the various AFV's.


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Monter - 02-24-2010

(02-21-2010, 10:14 AM)tazaaron Wrote: If it a pappanc wouldnt the front change also to bappanc/pappanc?
Oh i found another error :)
It should be dappanc/pappanc, where d stands for dywizjon (which literally translates into German as abteilung, an into English as... detachment maybe?). It is the same as batalion, but former is traditional designation for artillery. You already have das' (self-propelled artillery detachments), dar's (rocket artillery detachments). Also separate (if any exists) or divisional bappanc should be renamed as dappanc.

Same is with AA artillery. Actually AA Regts were divided in 4 batteries, but you grouped them for sake of simplicity into two units (and I think it is a good idea). But these units should be also dywizjons. So change all baplot into daplot.

PS. And sorry, I don't speak Flemish (nor Swahili :P)


RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.6 (Soon) - Aaron - 02-24-2010

Quote:Oh i found another error Smile
It should be dappanc/pappanc, where d stands for dywizjon (which literally translates into German as abteilung, an into English as... detachment maybe?). It is the same as batalion, but former is traditional designation for artillery. You already have das' (self-propelled artillery detachments), dar's (rocket artillery detachments). Also separate (if any exists) or divisional bappanc should be renamed as dappanc.

Same is with AA artillery. Actually AA Regts were divided in 4 batteries, but you grouped them for sake of simplicity into two units (and I think it is a good idea). But these units should be also dywizjons. So change all baplot into daplot.

PS. And sorry, I don't speak Flemish (nor Swahili Toungue)


Shukrani kwa ajili ya habari, mgonjwa kupata kwamba iliyopita.

Haruni