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04-06-2019, 12:14 AM
(04-05-2019, 02:22 PM)Strela Wrote: [ -> ]Hi All,
We have released the latest patch and Design notes for France '40 Gold.
All the info and links here at the blog; Blog Post Link
Hi Strela.With the gold update 2.01 and the update 2.02 there is now a "BAC.dat" in the folder for the Belgians, a "backk.dat" in the British folder (in addition to the "back.dat") and some folders (germans for example) have a "units.dat" and a "unitsNOPE.dat".
Is this all on purpose or should there only be one "back.dat" & "units.dat" per folder ?
The new "non-fragile French" have no "units.dat" in their folder at all.
04-06-2019, 12:36 AM
(04-06-2019, 12:14 AM)wiggum Wrote: [ -> ](04-05-2019, 02:22 PM)Strela Wrote: [ -> ]Hi All,
We have released the latest patch and Design notes for France '40 Gold.
All the info and links here at the blog; Blog Post Link
Hi Strela.With the gold update 2.01 and the update 2.02 there is now a "BAC.dat" in the folder for the Belgians, a "backk.dat" in the British folder (in addition to the "back.dat") and some folders (germans for example) have a "units.dat" and a "unitsNOPE.dat".
Is this all on purpose or should there only be one "back.dat" & "units.dat" per folder ?
The new "non-fragile French" have no "units.dat" in their folder at all.
The Dat files are only significant if you're trying to edit the OOB.
My bad as I believe the various ones you mention were left by the Dev team as they tidied a few things up and should probably have been removed. As far as the missing non-fragile French units.dat, that can be created by using Save all under the OOB editor in the Prucha OOB's. Please note it is not needed for game play and this step is only needed by those who want to mod the game.
David
David
04-06-2019, 06:55 PM
Which editor is used to mark a nation or formation as "Fragile Morale"?
Thanks for the design notes, we'll probably be restarting our team game again.
The default optional rules are still the same and don't match the recommended rules.
I feel the Indirect Fire and Air Strikes by the map rules is one of the most unbalanced rules for a game like France '40. The Luftwaffe can simply murder Allied artillery units with little the Allies can do about it. The Luftwaffe was never as capable as the optional rule can make it.
-Fixed units are not released when shelled or bombed. All the Axis player needs to do is make a note of the coordinates and bomb/shell it over and over until it's gone.
-Heavy artillery movement is a 2 turn process, so the Axis player can again simply make a note of where the unit is and bomb/shell it. Heavy artillery also has a low Defence value usually.
-Most artillery units move slowly due to being horse-drawn, which makes it likely that a recon mission aimed at their previously reported location will also find them somewhere nearby in T-mode even if they moved.
-The He 111 has been "upgraded" to a level bomber like in Panzer Battles and can launch carpet bombing strikes. The Germans receive 69 He 111 units that can carpet bomb. Those alone can cause serious losses to artillery and concentrations of units without any additional air units joining them.
-The hex air strike limit doesn't apply to carpet bombers.
To give the Luftwaffe a bit of an edge, switching off Low Visibility Air effects is an option. Visibility is likely to be excellent throughout the game so the situation wouldn't deviate too much from what would normally occur, and the air units still have to roll for availability after a mission, but it will lead to a small (initially) or moderate (when Luftflotte 3 and the rest of Luftflotte 2 arrive) increase in air units each turn.
The carpet bombers can already target artillery concentrations and the Luftwaffe is large enough to go to town on an entire sector of the front, making it difficult to hold an area anywhere for the Allies. Most of the 69 He 111 units combined with 2 other air units per hex should be quite enough to recreate a Sedan-like breakthrough.
Another change that could give the Germans an edge in support weapons would be making their infantry guns mortar units that can move without a need to go into T-mode and can fire without setting up like in Moscow '42 and possibly other titles.
Counter-battery fire tends to hurt short(er) ranged units, like the German infantry guns or Nebelwerfers in other games, and tends to lead to high artillery losses as well.
The lethality of the combat (all kinds) in PzC makes any rules that allow a serious concentration of firepower on single units potentially highly damaging to overall balance.
The effectiveness of the Luftwaffe should also not be overrated, breakthrough always relied more on ground action than on the Luftwaffe even at Sedan where the contested river crossing was not as one-sided as the legend would have it. Players can focus air strikes on different parts of the front with a flexibility that wouldn't be possible in real life.
The Luftwaffe couldn't force a breakthrough at Stonne, couldn't consistently stop Allied mobile forces from forming up for counter-attacks, couldn't stop the Belgians from staging an orderly withdrawal towards the K-W Line and couldn't stop the Allies from staging a mostly orderly withdrawal to the beaches and evacuating. The Luftwaffe was highly effective at providing tactical air support, but couldn't cover every sector of the front at once.
Thanks for the design notes, we'll probably be restarting our team game again.
The default optional rules are still the same and don't match the recommended rules.
I feel the Indirect Fire and Air Strikes by the map rules is one of the most unbalanced rules for a game like France '40. The Luftwaffe can simply murder Allied artillery units with little the Allies can do about it. The Luftwaffe was never as capable as the optional rule can make it.
-Fixed units are not released when shelled or bombed. All the Axis player needs to do is make a note of the coordinates and bomb/shell it over and over until it's gone.
-Heavy artillery movement is a 2 turn process, so the Axis player can again simply make a note of where the unit is and bomb/shell it. Heavy artillery also has a low Defence value usually.
-Most artillery units move slowly due to being horse-drawn, which makes it likely that a recon mission aimed at their previously reported location will also find them somewhere nearby in T-mode even if they moved.
-The He 111 has been "upgraded" to a level bomber like in Panzer Battles and can launch carpet bombing strikes. The Germans receive 69 He 111 units that can carpet bomb. Those alone can cause serious losses to artillery and concentrations of units without any additional air units joining them.
-The hex air strike limit doesn't apply to carpet bombers.
To give the Luftwaffe a bit of an edge, switching off Low Visibility Air effects is an option. Visibility is likely to be excellent throughout the game so the situation wouldn't deviate too much from what would normally occur, and the air units still have to roll for availability after a mission, but it will lead to a small (initially) or moderate (when Luftflotte 3 and the rest of Luftflotte 2 arrive) increase in air units each turn.
The carpet bombers can already target artillery concentrations and the Luftwaffe is large enough to go to town on an entire sector of the front, making it difficult to hold an area anywhere for the Allies. Most of the 69 He 111 units combined with 2 other air units per hex should be quite enough to recreate a Sedan-like breakthrough.
Another change that could give the Germans an edge in support weapons would be making their infantry guns mortar units that can move without a need to go into T-mode and can fire without setting up like in Moscow '42 and possibly other titles.
Counter-battery fire tends to hurt short(er) ranged units, like the German infantry guns or Nebelwerfers in other games, and tends to lead to high artillery losses as well.
The lethality of the combat (all kinds) in PzC makes any rules that allow a serious concentration of firepower on single units potentially highly damaging to overall balance.
The effectiveness of the Luftwaffe should also not be overrated, breakthrough always relied more on ground action than on the Luftwaffe even at Sedan where the contested river crossing was not as one-sided as the legend would have it. Players can focus air strikes on different parts of the front with a flexibility that wouldn't be possible in real life.
The Luftwaffe couldn't force a breakthrough at Stonne, couldn't consistently stop Allied mobile forces from forming up for counter-attacks, couldn't stop the Belgians from staging an orderly withdrawal towards the K-W Line and couldn't stop the Allies from staging a mostly orderly withdrawal to the beaches and evacuating. The Luftwaffe was highly effective at providing tactical air support, but couldn't cover every sector of the front at once.
04-07-2019, 03:33 AM
Thanks for all of the team's hard work!! Truly appreciated!
04-08-2019, 07:45 PM
All,
I can't seem to take a trick currently. We have had a few issues identified where we have realised that we have had a version control issue regarding the OOB's.
I'm currently updating the patch and full build but please download the following Hot Patch. There are two scenarios impacted (a minor issue with a ferry) and more importantly the correct OOB's.
Usually OOB's can be updated and not impact games in play but do check please.
Thanks and sorry, this is completely my fault, not the teams.
David
Hot Fix link; https://drive.google.com/open?id=1otkegM...RyudK1jtHI
I can't seem to take a trick currently. We have had a few issues identified where we have realised that we have had a version control issue regarding the OOB's.
I'm currently updating the patch and full build but please download the following Hot Patch. There are two scenarios impacted (a minor issue with a ferry) and more importantly the correct OOB's.
Usually OOB's can be updated and not impact games in play but do check please.
Thanks and sorry, this is completely my fault, not the teams.
David
Hot Fix link; https://drive.google.com/open?id=1otkegM...RyudK1jtHI
04-22-2019, 07:39 AM
Thanks, you guys have done a great job with the France '40 Gold Update 
04-24-2019, 06:43 AM
@strela
Is the hotfix already included in the 2.02 patch currently available at John tiller website ?
Is the hotfix already included in the 2.02 patch currently available at John tiller website ?
04-25-2019, 12:48 AM
(04-24-2019, 06:43 AM)wiggum Wrote: [ -> ]@strela
Is the hotfix already included in the 2.02 patch currently available at John tiller website ?
Yes, it should be.
The key way to check is that your Prucha OOB's should be dated approx April 8th, 2019.
If not after applying the latest patch, please let me know.
David