HI All
Merry Christmas to all!
Ive been away for a long time but I did manage to get a copy of Steven Zolgas Red Army Handbook-1939-1945. So I have done a complete revision of Soviet TOES.
The file includes complete and revised TOES for 1943-1945 only.
Soviet Field Army
Soviet Tank Army
STAVKA Artillery Units: incl Rocket Divisions, 1943 and 1944 Artillery Divisions and more
Soviet Regular Army Units: Tank, Mech, Rifle Div, Cav and others
Soviet Guard Army Units: Tank, Mech, Rifle Div, Cav and others
Other things:
All Soviet Infantry and most Towed units now have a Company HQ
All Soviet units Battalion to Army Level now have a HQ Company
All Battalion to Army Level units have leaders with the correct ranks
Lead Lease TOES
Ease of Use
For scenario designers its all here! If you want to create a army level scenario all you need to do is append the necessary formations into the army level formation and add the formation numbers and your done!
Rifle Corps are complete with Rifle Divisions: 1 Guards and 1 Regular Army Rifle Corp each with 4 Rifle Divisions though a Rifle Corp could have anywhere from 2-6 Divisions
I have attached the file below!! Enjoy :)
Enjoy
Rene
Are the original platoon numbers etc. untouched for existing scenario purposes?
Thanks for your efforts!!
(12-10-2012, 07:50 AM)Warhorse Wrote: [ -> ]Are the original platoon numbers etc. untouched for existing scenario purposes?
Thanks for your efforts!!
I didnt change the format as it was already set up..I just essentially modified the TOES
Thanks a ton, looks interesting!
I am building a few Soviet '44 Rifle and Guards Army Corps for a new scenario so your timing is perfect.
I will need to have a closer look at this come next weekend when I've got more time to do so.
Meanwhile, did you find a lot of differences in comparison to MCS 1.3 Soviet OOBs?
(12-11-2012, 05:15 AM)Battle Kat Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks a ton, looks interesting!
I am building a few Soviet '44 Rifle and Guards Army Corps for a new scenario so your timing is perfect.
I will need to have a closer look at this come next weekend when I've got more time to do so.
Meanwhile, did you find a lot of differences in comparison to MCS 1.3 Soviet OOBs?
HI
I wouldnt say there are huge differences they seem to have got all the basic units right but I'll point a few out
MCS has Tank brigades with 3 company tank battalions and that is incorrect. That wasnt implemented until after the war. Thats not to say there were none but clearly in the very very small minority and I would say those brigades most likely had only 2 battalions....
Another interesting difference was MTR companies were actually mixed with a SMG platoon so the MTR Battalions were a lot more streamlined then in MCS. Guards Rifle Division rifle company/s had SMG platoons in them....
Rifle Corps are pretty generic in MCS but in actuality were much better balanced so I followed the Red Army handbook on constructing those.
The hardest aspect was getting the STAVKA Artillery units right. Theres a lot of them and keeping track of there names was quite a headache but after finishing it was like...a holy f++++ck moment...The Russians really love their artillery!! It became really apparent that Soviet Artillery units were quite sophistcated and from building the Rocket Artillery Division I came to the conclusion that any German unit that was on the receiving end of that unit would be sucking big donkey balls on that day....heheehe
For army level organizations MSC either they didnt have the information or for games sake they just threw either everything in or nothing in and let the designer make the choices...my guess is the latter is the case
Russian HQ units are now in the game starting at battalion level where as before there were none. At battalion level they have little combat value and are mostly represented by a scout squad and 1 or 2 transports one of whch represents the signal units. Regiment and up they start to get bigger and have more combat value. HQ Staff brigade and higher are represented by a Security platoon since those particular Russian HQ units had nearly a platoon sized unit providing HQ security (I believe it was something like 27 soldiers)
Russian company HQ were not represented at all but did have a small combat value and these are represented by a scout squad. The Russian mentality on HQ units in lower echelon units is low numbers, low admin..just the basics and for those purposes you will find the Scout Squad often labled as HQ Staff all the way from Company to the Regimental level
Theres clearly a shift towards firepower in the 1944 TOEs probably because many Rifle divisions were rather permanently understrenght. Just like the Germans the Russian made up for manpower shortages with firepower..hence the higher preponderance of SMG units in all Tank/Motorized units and Guards Rifle units. I really think another year or two of war on the East till 1947..I dont think the Russians would have been able to make it...
hope this helps
HI All
Some of you are gonna hate me but I found out I forgot to add the Brigade HQ unit to the Soviet Guards Mechanized Brigade only!!
So ive updated the file. For those of you who have already downloaded and dont want to do it again please do the following
Open
Guards Mechanized Brigade
Brigade HQ(Security Platoon)-Rename to HQ Staff-->move to HQ Company-->make sure its the 1st unit in the HQ Company and move Jeeps to last
Select 1944--Russian platoons-select Brigade HQ--Add to Guards mechanized brigade-it must be the first unit in the Guards mechanized brigade
Keep in mind you will need to do it for all 3 Guards mechanized brigades in the Guards mechanized corp and the Guards mechanized brigade in the Guards Tank corp
and your done
so it should look like this
Guards Mechanized Brigade
Brigade HQ
Major General
HQ Company
-->HQ Staff (Security Platoon):
-->Signals Platoon
-->Motorcycle Platoon
-->Engineer Platoon
-->Flamethrower Platoon
-->Motorcycles
-->Trucks
-->Trucks
-->Jeeps
sorry about that!!!
Thanks Rene! From all what I've read as well the Red Army artillery was quite something. Hence the German tactics of not even trying to stop a Red Army offensive on forward line, but to reduce it over a defence of depth.
Would you happen to have the files in *.OOB format?
Company00.oob, Battalion00.oob, etc...