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I have just opened my first turn to make sure if I pressed "end turn" button, but instead of giving me an error message (which would mean that I did) it was asking me if I want to watch the replay. Oh, right, I thought, this is the first turn and my opponent did not enter his password yet. Ok, this is a mirror game anyway, lets see how it will look like when he opens it...

Well, I was very surprised with what I saw.

There was a long piece of paved road in the LOS of my opponent's AT. It destroys my Serman; I overrun it with my Greyhound platoon. And then...

And then I am thinking that since there is no any ATs anymore I can move along the road being unspoted and place my units in some secret :smoke: positions. But what do I see instead? Watching my opponents replay I see all my "secret" moves in the LOS of that captured AT until the end of the turn as if it is still there. Then at the very end everything disappear but anyway he saw all the locations where I moved.

What I thought before is that after a unit is destroyed or captured, my opponent is loosing it's LOS immediately. What is this, a bug or it is working always like that?

If it does, I better will take it in concideration next time :chin:

Any thoughts?

Dmitriy
I don't know what happened there Dmitriy,

I am surprised that you could replay the turn since my password was indeed in force on the first move.

In any case, what I saw were some tanks on the highway and of course your assault on my AT gun.

I seriously doubt this possible "glitch" will have any effect on the game since we both know that the Axis have very little in terms of forces west of the river.

Pat
Somewhere within the manual, it states that the battles are going on simultaneously which means all of the moves you make can be seen even if you destroy the unit which has LOS of all or part of your movements while it is still alive. Theoretically while the battle is going on the enemy unit is using its radio to inform other friendly units of your movements. Also and being theoretical you are not just moving one unit or a group of units one at a time but the game sees you moving all of your units (based on its 20 per turn program) at the same time you are attacking the ATG and which means the ATG can see all of your movements even though you haven't physically moved all of your remaining units yet. And after the turn is over and if your opponent doesn't have any other units in your LOS of your remaining units, your remaining units will disappear from his view but will still know the location of the units (if he remembers the location or writes it down) but will no longer be able to see your units.

If I understand the beginning of your post, you were sure that you ended your turn and if you did and you opened the game again and entered your password, I believe you should have gotten a BLACK screen since you did not have a current battle file from your opponent.

Troll
(02-04-2010, 10:51 AM)Montana Grizz Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know what happened there Dmitriy,

I am surprised that you could replay the turn since my password was indeed in force on the first move.
I am talking about the 2nd game which I started. I watched the replay before sending it to you, so it didn't have your password yet.:cheeky:

Quote:In any case, what I saw were some tanks on the highway and of course your assault on my AT gun.
And what about after assault? I saw my mortar halftrack and other units moving already after those ATs destroyed. :hissy:

Quote:I seriously doubt this possible "glitch" will have any effect on the game since we both know that the Axis have very little in terms of forces west of the river.
That's right, it is not so important in this particular case and probably not so important in any first move... but what I was asking, if this "glitch" will repeat in every replay during a game?

If so, better keep it in mind :)

cheers
Dmitriy
(02-04-2010, 11:51 AM)Troll Wrote: [ -> ]Somewhere within the manual, it states that the battles are going on simultaneously which means all of the moves you make can be seen even if you destroy the unit which has LOS of all or part of your movements while it is still alive.
Yes this make sense. But I was confused mostly by seeing how one of my units moved to the same hex were those ATs were destroyed just a moment ago... This can't happen simultaneously ;). Anyway this is probably one of those minuses of "turn by turn"... not a big deal. Good to know.

Quote:If I understand the beginning of your post, you were sure that you ended your turn and if you did and you opened the game again and entered your password, I believe you should have gotten a BLACK screen since you did not have a current battle file from your opponent.
No, I opened it because I was not sure... And I did not enter any password - this was the first turn. It is like you getting the first move from your opponent: you just open it.

Dmitriy