12-12-2008, 01:51 PM
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12-12-2008, 02:56 PM
Not yet. ;) Just guessing of course...
I think they spent there career in Army Group North around Leningrad.
I think they spent there career in Army Group North around Leningrad.
12-12-2008, 03:05 PM
I could be wrong but I think they started with AGC in 41, then up to AGN till around Stalingrad time, then AGS till early 43. Not so sure about AGS. Anyway I guess a Leningrad title would see their appearance :chin:
12-13-2008, 02:55 AM
Hello:
The unit will operate in the north in the area of Leningrad.
This summer interviewing a veteran of the health unit.
He remembered clearly the intensity of the fire of Russian artillery.
Told me stories from the front and some Spanish officials.
Had good relations with Russians civilians.
A greeting
The unit will operate in the north in the area of Leningrad.
This summer interviewing a veteran of the health unit.
He remembered clearly the intensity of the fire of Russian artillery.
Told me stories from the front and some Spanish officials.
Had good relations with Russians civilians.
A greeting
12-13-2008, 03:32 AM
Michael,
If you like I can tell you about Spanien Blau Divisionen (spanish blue division), I know very well their history from Spanish Civil War to Spanish Legion fighting even after Hitler's death at the ruins of Berlin.
Bests
César
If you like I can tell you about Spanien Blau Divisionen (spanish blue division), I know very well their history from Spanish Civil War to Spanish Legion fighting even after Hitler's death at the ruins of Berlin.
Bests
César
12-13-2008, 07:35 AM
Thanks guys. Cesar that would be cool if you have the time. I am sure members of the club would be intersted in hearing about this unit. I think you should post your research on this board or email me if you prefer, but yes I would be very appreciative. I have often moved the Blue division around the map in Europa (FITE/SE) and other East Front games. I think the foreign volunteer units that fought in the east are some of the most interesting units of the war.
12-13-2008, 02:51 PM
I read a book about the Blue Division many many years ago...but dont remember much from it, other then they were not considered very good at first by the Germans, but soon grew to appreciate them..
That, and I believe they walked all the way from Spain to get to the front
That, and I believe they walked all the way from Spain to get to the front
12-13-2008, 08:22 PM
"That, and I believe they walked all the way from Spain to get to the front"
They walked the way from Suwalki, Poland to Novgorod sector. Around 1000 km of distance. They were a Hipomovil division, so like many others germans divisions, the only motorised part of the unit were his own legs...
I have a friend (with 90 years...) that he fought in Russia and remains many metallics "regards" from the russian front...
They walked the way from Suwalki, Poland to Novgorod sector. Around 1000 km of distance. They were a Hipomovil division, so like many others germans divisions, the only motorised part of the unit were his own legs...
I have a friend (with 90 years...) that he fought in Russia and remains many metallics "regards" from the russian front...
12-14-2008, 05:31 AM
Hello:
The road was carried out by train from Spain to Germany.
He remembered the oath of allegiance to Hithler, in the German training camp.
They were transferred by train to the front.
When they reached the front Russia was very east around Leningrad.
A greeting
The road was carried out by train from Spain to Germany.
He remembered the oath of allegiance to Hithler, in the German training camp.
They were transferred by train to the front.
When they reached the front Russia was very east around Leningrad.
A greeting
12-14-2008, 08:37 AM
This is an extract form the feldgrau website. The complete history of the division can be found here: http://www.feldgrau.com/InfDiv.php?ID=163
"(...) After being transported via rail to Poland, the division was left to continue its transfer to the front on foot. Setting out on August 29th, 1941, the division headed for Smolensk over 1,000 miles away marching four abreast in a column that stretched over 30 miles long. Each regiment of the division occupied a span of over 8 miles. Every six miles the division stopped to rest for but a few minutes. The division initially passed through Vilna, Grodno, Molodeschno, Minsk and later arrived in Orsha just outside of Smolensk. All of the cities the division passed through were wholly or partly in ruins, devastated by the German advance and terrible fighting that had taken place in the days and weeks prior to their arrival. On September 25th, 1941, nearly one month after embarking on its grueling foot march, lead elements of the division crossed the Dnieper River at Gusino and set up camp at Svetitsy about 40 miles outside of Smolensk. The rest of the division was stretched out to the west with the rear of the divisional column stopping in Orsha. The next day consisted of a much needed rest, during which - much to the suprise of the division - orders were issued to countermarch back through Orsha and to move towards Vitebsk a little over 100 miles to the north. The division had now been assigned for service in the siege of Leningrad under Armeegruppe Nord, 16.Armee instead of taking part in the attack on Moscow under Armeegruppe Mitte as had been anticipated for the duration of the transit.
On September 27th, 1941, the division headed out once more in a long column formation to reach Vitebsk to the north. Once there, the lead elements entrained for the more than 450 mile trip to their final destination along the front - the region of Novgorod along the shores of Lake Ilemn and the Volkhov River. The 250.Infanterie-Division was to replace the 126.Infanterie-Division deployed defensively along a 40 mile front on the shores of the Volkhov just north of Novgorod. Starting on October 7th, 1941, lead elements of the division began arriving at the front and even took casualties, namely, portions of Artillerie-Regiment 250. On the same day portions of the Artillerie-Regiment were starting to take over the positions of the 126.Infanterie-Division, other units of the division were still bording trains in Vitebsk for the rail transport north! On October 10th, new orders were issued for the division to shift its positions along the Volkhov to the south, and to instead replace the positions of the 18.Infanterie-Division (mot.). This obviously made the situation somewhat confused as portions of the division were already in the process of taking over positions of the 126.Infanterie-Division. To fix the situation it was decided that those positions of the 126th that the division had replaced would remain occupied, as they were luckily all located to the south, and that the positions of the 18th, located even further south of the 126th, would be fully replaced. Thus, the 250.Infanterie-Division would occupy a front of more than 50 miles from the northern tip of Lake Ilmen in the south to just south of Miasnoi Bor at Zmeisko in the north - the former positions of the entire 18.Infanterie-Division (mot.) and the southern portion of the lines of the 126.Infanterie-Division, now shifted to the north, but still along the Volkhov. (...)"
So I guess the division will only show up in the Leningrad title.
"(...) After being transported via rail to Poland, the division was left to continue its transfer to the front on foot. Setting out on August 29th, 1941, the division headed for Smolensk over 1,000 miles away marching four abreast in a column that stretched over 30 miles long. Each regiment of the division occupied a span of over 8 miles. Every six miles the division stopped to rest for but a few minutes. The division initially passed through Vilna, Grodno, Molodeschno, Minsk and later arrived in Orsha just outside of Smolensk. All of the cities the division passed through were wholly or partly in ruins, devastated by the German advance and terrible fighting that had taken place in the days and weeks prior to their arrival. On September 25th, 1941, nearly one month after embarking on its grueling foot march, lead elements of the division crossed the Dnieper River at Gusino and set up camp at Svetitsy about 40 miles outside of Smolensk. The rest of the division was stretched out to the west with the rear of the divisional column stopping in Orsha. The next day consisted of a much needed rest, during which - much to the suprise of the division - orders were issued to countermarch back through Orsha and to move towards Vitebsk a little over 100 miles to the north. The division had now been assigned for service in the siege of Leningrad under Armeegruppe Nord, 16.Armee instead of taking part in the attack on Moscow under Armeegruppe Mitte as had been anticipated for the duration of the transit.
On September 27th, 1941, the division headed out once more in a long column formation to reach Vitebsk to the north. Once there, the lead elements entrained for the more than 450 mile trip to their final destination along the front - the region of Novgorod along the shores of Lake Ilemn and the Volkhov River. The 250.Infanterie-Division was to replace the 126.Infanterie-Division deployed defensively along a 40 mile front on the shores of the Volkhov just north of Novgorod. Starting on October 7th, 1941, lead elements of the division began arriving at the front and even took casualties, namely, portions of Artillerie-Regiment 250. On the same day portions of the Artillerie-Regiment were starting to take over the positions of the 126.Infanterie-Division, other units of the division were still bording trains in Vitebsk for the rail transport north! On October 10th, new orders were issued for the division to shift its positions along the Volkhov to the south, and to instead replace the positions of the 18.Infanterie-Division (mot.). This obviously made the situation somewhat confused as portions of the division were already in the process of taking over positions of the 126.Infanterie-Division. To fix the situation it was decided that those positions of the 126th that the division had replaced would remain occupied, as they were luckily all located to the south, and that the positions of the 18th, located even further south of the 126th, would be fully replaced. Thus, the 250.Infanterie-Division would occupy a front of more than 50 miles from the northern tip of Lake Ilmen in the south to just south of Miasnoi Bor at Zmeisko in the north - the former positions of the entire 18.Infanterie-Division (mot.) and the southern portion of the lines of the 126.Infanterie-Division, now shifted to the north, but still along the Volkhov. (...)"
So I guess the division will only show up in the Leningrad title.
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