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Walrus Wrote:To say it is unplayable is a very prejudiced view IMHO.

Don't be so serious bro :)

Steel Panthers = serious business :)

Okay guys I just downloaded WinSPMBT from Camo and patched it through the 5 patches in sequence through 4.0, so i'll start training myself up on it and issue a few pbem challenges later on if everything works okay.
I'll probably download WW2 at a future date , but at the moment will stick with modern battles to be going on with..:)

PS-do i need to download any addons and stuff for MBT or is it now ready to go?

alpha Wrote:Steel Panthers = serious business :)

That's :censored:ing right!
Well said Alpha

hahahahahaha

Sorry Vesa...can't let you poison the mind of a prospective MBT player with your nasty anti-SPCAMO comments without mounting some sort of defence eh

In the end we are lucky that we have so many options.

Cheers

PoorOldSpike Wrote:Okay guys I just downloaded WinSPMBT from Camo and patched it through the 5 patches in sequence through 4.0, so i'll start training myself up on it and issue a few pbem challenges later on if everything works okay.
I'll probably download WW2 at a future date , but at the moment will stick with modern battles to be going on with..:)

PS-do i need to download any addons and stuff for MBT or is it now ready to go?

Good for you bro.
You need nothing apart from the patches.

The game guide that comes with the game is long and involved...but well worth a read.
It will answer all your questions.

The has been much debate as to the settings (preference settings, you'll find them quickly enough) for MBT.
Some say that infantry is far too powerful, others do not.
Weasel has made a set of PBEM game rules (for MBT mostly) that can give a few pointers for settings.
It is here
https://www.theblitz.club/message_boards...?tid=43807

The FOO rule is still being developed and fine tuned.
All rules are purely optional and up for debate with your fellow PBEM player.

You'll find many scenarios and campaigns that come with the DL. You can also design your own maps, scenarios and campaigns...and edit / change / create any units you like.
I suggest you play with default setting etc until you get the hang of it all.

Good luck and welcome to the SP world.

BTW...we are a civilised bunch here on the SP ladder....any of the dramas that seem to happen on the CS and CM ladders will not be tolerated here. Not insinuating that you would cause any issues
Just to let you know that we run things a little differently here.

Hurrah!
Walrus

civilized (<--note correct spelling version LMAO) my arse :P

RedDevil Wrote:civilized (<--note correct spelling version LMAO) my arse :P

That's the American spelling bro...not the 'correct' spelling.

The language we are using is called English...that's ENGLISH in case you missed my point.

When there is a language called American (I dread that day ) you can enter into a debate about spelling.

It's been said that this was written by John Cleese. It wasn't but it is still brilliant

"To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up revocation in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up aluminium. Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix ize will be replaced by the suffix ise. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.

Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary. Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed. There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney,upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as Taggart will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is Devon. If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become shires e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, God Save The Queen but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called Indecisive Day.

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time,you will go metric with immediate effect and conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer,and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. The substances formerly known as American Beer will henceforth be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine,with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine. This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen,Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From November 10th the UK will harmonise petrol (or Gasoline, as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon- get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation and have a great day."

Walrus Wrote:7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

Hehe...I'll wager the inability to enforce this item will render most of the others null and void anyway...as y'all learned the hard way 235 odd years ago. ;)

You lads just don't get it.. beer and tea is best COLD.. :P

Hi
Just to clarify...I am a Kiwi, of mostly Scottish decent.
So, a colonial and oppressed by the English invader!
Though not quite as badly as the Irish and Welsh I'll admit.

So...I have no great love for England...especially their rugby and cricket teams :mad:
However I have even less love for the destruction of the English language by you rebels :soap:

Tea should be hot...but coffee is far superior...thanks for that South America
BTW...starbucks is NOT coffee...it is corporate swill and not even close.
I have traveled far and wide and it is hard to get good coffee no matter where you are on this planet.
However it is nearly impossible to get anything remotely like proper coffee in the US.
Why do you guys dilute everything?
It's like you cannot stand anything to be it's proper strength


Beer, I totally agree should be cold...but I stand by the above comment about US Bud...it is, by far, the worst beer I have ever tasted.
All cheep beer is not worth drinking...no matter where it comes from.
There joke here with the beer from Queensland called XXXX (said four "X") is that it was called that as they were unable to spell shit correctly.
(excuse the language but the joke doesn't work if I censor it :-)...i'm sure you'll survive eh!)

I though the point about petrol prices was interesting...and it was written in the year 2000 IIRC.
Yes...it cost a lot of money to run a car in the rest of the world...you are just catching up. Get used to it...it sucks.

So, I feel this discussion has been very civilised indeed.
Now we just need to get the spell-checker that is working on these posts to actually spell correctly...and we'll be sorted.
Hurrah!
I'm off for a strong cup of coffee and to watch some real sport...that's cricket!
Howz that! (that's a wee joke for the rest of the civilised world)

Walrus