Copper
10-17-2007, 02:49 PM
Playing in the KOTH2 tourney has put me and my panzer III's and short barrel panzer IV's against the mighty Grant.
Here are a few tips for defeating this beastie (not that I am currently succeeding or anything).
1) Grants in hulldown position do not fire main gun (75mm) and can only fire 37mm.
2) Because of the above, its very rare that the are used in hull down position, thus making them susceptible to low frontal armor penetrations (the turrent and mid frontal armor is nigh impenetrable by German guns of that circa).
3) The Grant responds much like a StuG or fixed gun TD, and can be made to turn to face flankers and reveal side shots.
4) The 75mm main gun is not accurate past 1000m, but is quite lethal under 750m. Stay above those ranges or die.
5) Panzer III varieties with reinforced frontal turret armor are almost impenetrable by the Grant in hulldown position at 750m plus.
6) Because of the twin ROF of the Grant, you have to be weary of even a trio of them, as they are throwing a lot of AP at you per turn. Therefore, make sure that you have at least a 2:1 tank advantage at anytime you engage
7) Pick your spots and keyhole Grant formations, or single grants and take them on one at a time if possible.
8) Marders with the 75 long can be used only as shoot and scoot units, and only at range, as the 37mm gun will take them out with its high ROF even at 750m. The 75 long on the Marder can penetrate the frontal armor, but not the turret at 1000m.
9) The PZ IV cannot penetrate the Grant frontal armor except for the lower hull even at 250m. Use PZ IV for smoke and cleaning up dead crews, or as a flanking diversion, as they are NO GOOD, against M3's
10) If you can, shoot out the Honey support first, and go after the Grants last. Taking on support tanks with operational Grants in LOS will be your doom.
Cheers!
Leto
Here are a few tips for defeating this beastie (not that I am currently succeeding or anything).
1) Grants in hulldown position do not fire main gun (75mm) and can only fire 37mm.
2) Because of the above, its very rare that the are used in hull down position, thus making them susceptible to low frontal armor penetrations (the turrent and mid frontal armor is nigh impenetrable by German guns of that circa).
3) The Grant responds much like a StuG or fixed gun TD, and can be made to turn to face flankers and reveal side shots.
4) The 75mm main gun is not accurate past 1000m, but is quite lethal under 750m. Stay above those ranges or die.
5) Panzer III varieties with reinforced frontal turret armor are almost impenetrable by the Grant in hulldown position at 750m plus.
6) Because of the twin ROF of the Grant, you have to be weary of even a trio of them, as they are throwing a lot of AP at you per turn. Therefore, make sure that you have at least a 2:1 tank advantage at anytime you engage
7) Pick your spots and keyhole Grant formations, or single grants and take them on one at a time if possible.
8) Marders with the 75 long can be used only as shoot and scoot units, and only at range, as the 37mm gun will take them out with its high ROF even at 750m. The 75 long on the Marder can penetrate the frontal armor, but not the turret at 1000m.
9) The PZ IV cannot penetrate the Grant frontal armor except for the lower hull even at 250m. Use PZ IV for smoke and cleaning up dead crews, or as a flanking diversion, as they are NO GOOD, against M3's
10) If you can, shoot out the Honey support first, and go after the Grants last. Taking on support tanks with operational Grants in LOS will be your doom.
Cheers!
Leto
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